2025/26 David Moyes

[davek]

It hasn't been appalling. What was your expectation at the start of the season? I think a large portion of us would have seen a stable finish around 10th as a success. The fact that we are feeling disappointed at the prospect of a midtable finish with 5 games to go shows how well David Moyes has done.

To win a lot of home matches; to play passing football; to get a long cup run; to not only get safe but to kick on massively given how much cash was spent for once.

I said myself that if we get top ten that even though it's low hanging fruit it should keep Moyes in his job, but there's huge questions over even that now.

If we finish bottom half that's appalling. We're a point off that.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Oh so its fine to waste 100 million on a alps of players who won’t play because its actually not a lot of money, and the squad was small so we just rammed it with players that aren’t good enough to get on the pitch regularly for us.

Makes perfect sense.

So because they're not ready now, they're a waste, no wonder you want Mourinho in.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Biggest concern for me is that we are going to be going into all these must win games (after doing the Moyes bottle job in the last 2) with Keane and Tarkowski as the CB pairing. If Moyes was remotely serious about getting us into Europe, it would be a proper RB playing in their actual position and JOB alongside one of the other two.

But no.

Also, McNeil would not kick another ball for us if he was remotely serious about qualifying for Europe. It is an absolute fallacy that he works for the team. Most games he doesn't even bother tracking his man and always has to turn back because he is so one-footed. The odd games where he can be bothered actually trying, he's always behind the pace anyway. I find his selection so frustrating because, he will let his man go in key moments just as often as a young player, but unlike them he has no magic in the other half of the pitch. So, safety first managers like Moyes can peddle this ridiculous anti-young player narrative.

Would love for him to go for it, but he won't and it will cost us Europe. I actually thought we would get Conference League when the season started, but I don't now.

Need to beat ALL of West Ham, Palace, Sunderland and Spurs to definitely get in (assuming we lose to City) and at least win 3 of them (if some other results go our way). But safety first won't do it.

If Beto went off for concussion, he won't be available against West Ham either, which won't help at all.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Definitely. Also, not having a successful season doesn't mean it's been a failure either, we've shown progress up the ladder and have built (imo) a solid foundation in the squad with some talented younger players that will eventually get their time to be a mainstay of the starting side, that's how I view it anyway. I'm not of this black and white view that plagues today's society. There's definitely an opportunity for another manager to push this team onto greater things without saying Moyes isn't doing a fine job.

I'm probably less optimistic when it comes to the younger players. We've just seen so little of them to really know if they are good enough. My concern is why are they not being used.

Thankfully they all have time to improve and hopefully there is a plan behind the scenes to develop them. Barry is the only one that I think we just have to accept hasn't worked out and to find a buyer.

 

[BlueStevie35]

To win a lot of home matches; to play passing football; to get a long cup run; to not only get safe but to kick on massively given how much cash was spent for once.

I said myself that if we get top ten that even though it's low hanging fruit it should keep Moyes in his job, but there's huge questions over even that now.

If we finish bottom half that's appalling. We're a point off that.

We’re also a point off 6th despite losing today

 

[MACCA75]

You want to know why? Really?

Because Dyche is a limited manager who had limited players and set them out to plays the same brand of boring defensive football every single game. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t, and it gets you more than a point per game and keeps you in the league.

So he had three derbies against better Liverpool teams than this one, played the same boring way in all three, got battered in one, got robbed by a bent ref in the other, and then won another one.

What’s the point in getting angry. He had much worse players than Liverpool, he was a much worse manager than Klopp, he was always going to be a short term band aid, and no one could accuse him of treating them any differently because he played the exact same way against them as he did against everyone else. Oh and he also actually won one, which does help a bit.


Moyes is a much better manager than Dyche, has better players, is up against a far worse manager in Slot, who has a much worse Liverpool team. Yet despite all of this we don’t play anything like we play against other teams when we play Liverpool. If we just played to our normal level every time we played them we’d probably have more mixed results but Moyes manages these games completely differently and we get fearful performances way below our level. The fact this has happened for the best part of 13 years under him also adds to the frustration.

I’m more angry with Moyes because he can do better and fails almost every time. Dyche just blundered in for 3 games and even his brand of rubbish football was enough to win one of them

Moyes has much better players than Dyche? Dyche literally had 10 of that starting line up today!

17 points from his 19 games last season btw..

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

To win a lot of home matches; to play passing football; to get a long cup run; to not only get safe but to kick on massively given how much cash was spent for once.

I said myself that if we get top ten that even though it's low hanging fruit it should keep Moyes in his job, but there's huge questions over even that now.

If we finish bottom half that's appalling. We're a point off that.

All of the above would have been an incredible season after battling the drop for a number of years. Don't think it's fair to set that as the immediate standard.

But if that's your expectation of Moyes then you must hold him in high regard

 

[Leylo]

Oh so its fine to waste 100 million on a load of players who won’t play because its actually not a lot of money, and the squad was small so we just rammed it with players that aren’t good enough to get on the pitch regularly for us.

Makes perfect sense.

Were challenging for European football not relegation which we have been doing for years FFS

 

[ToffeeTim]

We’re also a point off 6th despite losing today

That almost makes losing a point in the 100th minute all the more frustrating. If we miss out by 1 or 2 points we are going to look back on a lot of missed opportunities in home matches. Home form just has to improve next year. 5 wins is relegation home form.

 

[dannyboy]

Today is extremely frustrating but the 2 worst results this year by far were still the two terrible cup losses.

And those games are also the reason why we need to finish the league well and get top half or ultimately it's a wasted season.

That Wolves game still haunts me. More sympathy for the Sunderland game where we could barely cobble together a starting XI but Moyes brought that on himself by not taking the League Cup seriously.

If he's here next season a deep run in at least one of the cups is a must. Hopefully a European one. We can dream hey.

 

[Richard Alex]

Analysing the way we play Liverpool compared to other teams and slagging Moyes off in the process.
Just like to say Everton could/should have been 2 or 3 up before Liverpool scored.
IMO he should have changed the midfield half way through the second half. Apart from that if Branwaite stays on we don’t lose that. Best player on the pitch.
The players list that by not taking chances and not marking at corners.
Achilles heal is defending corners when the opposition popping the ball in the 6 yard box. We are weak at this as our keepers does not command this area.
We’ve conceded too many goals trying to defend this situation.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

I'm probably less optimistic when it comes to the younger players. We've just seen so little of them to really know if they are good enough. My concern is why are they not being used.

Thankfully they all have time to improve and hopefully there is a plan behind the scenes to develop them. Barry is the only one that I think we just have to accept hasn't worked out and to find a buyer.

As seen with Dibling and George, they have something about them but they're raw, Rohl looks alright but none of them are replacing our current starting players and you have to earn the jersey, but I'm more positive about them doing that. Time will tell! Agree about Barry, thought he had something about him but his attitude is disgraceful.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Moyes has much better players than Dyche? Dyche literally had 10 of that starting line up today!

I knew there was a reason I didn't bother reading it.

 

[Saint Domingo]

So because they're not ready now, they're a waste, no wonder you want Mourinho in.

They can’t get on the pitch ahead of McNeil, Gueye, Mykolenko, Beto and these are some absolutely bang average Everton players. Tyrique George came on and looked terrible and Dibling is even behind him. Dibling is even behind Harrison Armstrong being played out of position on the right wing and he was on loan at Preston because we didn’t even need him in the squad. Dibling cost 40 million.

If these players we coming on and getting more and more minutes, looking better and better, developing all the time, you might have a point, but most have gone backwards.

Dibling at Southampton is better than the player we have now. Alcaraz of last season is better than he is now. Merlin Rohl was playing better football at his previous club than he is now. Barry was hitting double figures in La Liga for a CL team. He was better a de months ago than he his now.

These lads are barely even getting off the bench. How exactly have we developed them? When we start next season I’d wager money that we’re still relying on the bulk of the players he has in the 11 now. If McNeil stays he’ll still get starts, so will Gueye, so will Tarkwoski, so will Mykolenko, so will Beto.

We haven’t developed anyone.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Moyes has much better players than Dyche? Dyche literally had 10 of that starting line up today!

17 points from his 19 games last season btw..

Maybe it’s time to ask yourself why Moyes is playing 10 of Dyche’s players rather than his 100 million of signings