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History: Dynamo Kyiv 5-2 Everton | UEFA Europa League 2014/15
Dynamo Kyiv vs Everton 2014/15. All UEFA Europa League match information including stats, goals, results, history, and more.
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Bit harsh mate as for all his faults he's one of us and he wants us to win as much as the rest of us. He just holds insane grudges against certain individuals at the club for perceived wrong doings. I actually think Davek is the classic borderline personality type where everything is black and white and either you're a hero to him (Martinez) or a villain to him (Moyes, Baines, Patterson amongst others)
Overall, he hasn’t been a bottler since coming back. We’ve thrown away individual games, and some of that can definitely be put on him, but overall he’s done a great job to even have us in with a chance of the Champions League this season. Hopefully the rhetoric behind closed doors is different to the one he displays in pressers cos he should be convincing our players we've got every shot of UCL, the leagues quality is shocking.12 years here, 12 years of zero silverware. 1 CL play off tie which he surrendered.
Im not sure what your definition of bottling it is...
Nice to see the narrative has changed from " GET THE DOUR GINGER FRAUD OUT OF MY CLOOB ", to Martinez was a better manager, he needs to be talking about Champions League football and show some ambishun, as the owners and the fans will demanding more ( note, no mention of imaginary fan protests there )
Talk about clutching at straws![]()
Overall, he hasn’t been a bottler since coming back. We’ve thrown away individual games, and some of that can definitely be put on him, but overall he’s done a great job to even have us in with a chance of the Champions League this season. Hopefully the rhetoric behind closed doors is different to the one he displays in pressers cos he should be convincing our players we've got every shot of UCL, the leagues quality is shocking.
Why does it have to be a single narrative?
There's not only 1 dart to throw at a board.
People SHOULD have complaints, thats how to set higher standards.
Some people feel more comfortable with the cardigan and slippers Moyesian zero-ambition Everton.
He's got us into this position and raised expectations now we just needs to get over the line, next 2 are vital.The way he sat and watched a car crash after Christmas here using AFCON as an excuse to explain away cowardly performances underlines he's still the same old Moyes.
Get a Euro spot this season and my attitude changes a fair bit.
Is talking about a place in next season's Champions League after multiple seasons barely staying in the division zero-ambition?
As were many to be fair, and because they wanted the Sh1te to lose, no other reason. There really is some bitterness on this forum.No. He is literally on record on this forum as wanting us to lose football matches in December to aid Liverpool’s “title rivals”
He's not doing that. He's shirking away from it AFAIK: other people saying he recoiled or winced at the thought of making top 5.
Well, it wasn't me who made the observation.
Newsflash: it's far from just me who believes Moyes to be a bottler.
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