2025/26 David Moyes

Bit harsh mate as for all his faults he's one of us and he wants us to win as much as the rest of us. He just holds insane grudges against certain individuals at the club for perceived wrong doings. I actually think Davek is the classic borderline personality type where everything is black and white and either you're a hero to him (Martinez) or a villain to him (Moyes, Baines, Patterson amongst others)

No. He is literally on record on this forum as wanting us to lose football matches in December to aid Liverpool’s “title rivals”
 
12 years here, 12 years of zero silverware. 1 CL play off tie which he surrendered.

Im not sure what your definition of bottling it is...
Overall, he hasn’t been a bottler since coming back. We’ve thrown away individual games, and some of that can definitely be put on him, but overall he’s done a great job to even have us in with a chance of the Champions League this season. Hopefully the rhetoric behind closed doors is different to the one he displays in pressers cos he should be convincing our players we've got every shot of UCL, the leagues quality is shocking.
 
Nice to see the narrative has changed from " GET THE DOUR GINGER FRAUD OUT OF MY CLOOB ", to Martinez was a better manager, he needs to be talking about Champions League football and show some ambishun, as the owners and the fans will demanding more ( note, no mention of imaginary fan protests there )

Talk about clutching at straws 🥱

Why does it have to be a single narrative?

There's not only 1 dart to throw at a board.

People SHOULD have complaints, thats how to set higher standards.
 
Overall, he hasn’t been a bottler since coming back. We’ve thrown away individual games, and some of that can definitely be put on him, but overall he’s done a great job to even have us in with a chance of the Champions League this season. Hopefully the rhetoric behind closed doors is different to the one he displays in pressers cos he should be convincing our players we've got every shot of UCL, the leagues quality is shocking.

The way he sat and watched a car crash after Christmas here using AFCON as an excuse to explain away cowardly performances underlines he's still the same old Moyes.

Get a Euro spot this season and my attitude changes a fair bit.
 
Is talking about a place in next season's Champions League after multiple seasons barely staying in the division zero-ambition?

He's not doing that. He's shirking away from it AFAIK: other people saying he recoiled or winced at the thought of making top 5.
 

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