2024/25 David Moyes

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It really isn’t that big. We don’t magically have vast sums of money as some hedge fund has taken over. They want a return on investment, not to spend huge amounts of cash on a vanity purchase like Abramovic.
 
I do think they have a massive decision to make with Moyes if i'm honest, as absurd as it may sound.

Do they really want him to be the man leading the charge into the next stadium, and being the person in charge of the business we do in our one big chance to spend and rebuild this team?

I'm not so sure i personally want him to be that man.

I think he has come in and done a utterly fantastic job, there would be plenty of positives of keeping him, but there would also be quite a few negatives, and some huge risks.

Moyes of the past had the fire and time at hand to build a squad, and invest in younger players and build them up, this moyes is different, he will want instant success, and that will be reflected in the business he would like us to do, and i am just not too sure that would help us long term.

I am very very grateful for what Moyes has done this season.. but i also would be more inclined for them to let him go and replace, then keep.

But i wouldn't be too upset if he stayed, depending on the recruitment policy.
 
Goat said:
Not me, but, I think every Summer is important to this club, it shapes the next 9 months and in some cases, the next 9 years, but, thats every summer.

I know what you mean tho, huge churn squad wise, a fresh slate, to some degree, a very expensive fresh slate, a new Stadium, increased revenue, the perfect reset.
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Got to get this right. I expect Moyes to spend money wisely, and give us a decent foundation.
 
So i reckon
AaronTheBlue said:
I do think they have a massive decision to make with Moyes if i'm honest, as absurd as it may sound.

Do they really want him to be the man leading the charge into the next stadium, and being the person in charge of the business we do in our one big chance to spend and rebuild this team?

I'm not so sure i personally want him to be that man.

I think he has come in and done a utterly fantastic job, there would be plenty of positives of keeping him, but there would also be quite a few negatives, and some huge risks.

Moyes of the past had the fire and time at hand to build a squad, and invest in younger players and build them up, this moyes is different, he will want instant success, and that will be reflected in the business he would like us to do, and i am just not too sure that would help us long term.

I am very very grateful for what Moyes has done this season.. but i also would be more inclined for them to let him go and replace, then keep.

But i wouldn't be too upset if he stayed, depending on the recruitment policy.
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I think managers are given a remit.
Moyes remit will be find value and pushing up the table. Style of football will be better than Dyche but not a priority.
This summer needs a forest style reset. We need more hits than misses, we can’t afford to be ripped off like agents. Pushing spent players on huge contracts.
Think Moyes over seeing this prevents this.
We need players that have a point to prove. Moyes specialised in getting players in an improving them.
 

twoblue said:
So i reckon

I think managers are given a remit.
Moyes remit will be find value and pushing up the table. Style of football will be better than Dyche but not a priority.
This summer needs a forest style reset. We need more hits than misses, we can’t afford to be ripped off like agents. Pushing spent players on huge contracts.
Think Moyes over seeing this prevents this.
We need players that have a point to prove. Moyes specialised in getting players in an improving them.
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Look, i'm a big Moyes fan and i loved what he did for us in the past, but he's won 5 games in 16, lost as much as he's won.

He has wasted hundreds of millions on players over the past few years, despite his decent results with west ham, that can't be ignored.

Keeping moyes does not equal spending wisely, it is not the same moyes, it is not the same league.

I can almost guarantee you that he will want a certain type of player at a certain part of their career, and i do not think it will benefit us long term, and i hope i'm wrong on that, but i just don't see it that way.

Moyes also has plenty of friends in the agents worlds, he isn't this saintly figure who doesn't get involved in that nonsense, he does.

He will want ready made players, that will cost a premium, we can't afford to get this summer wrong.
 
Anything, but a strong finish at home against Ipswich and the Saints could get the alarm bells ringing.
We've had some hard games of late, but can't help thinking the players are slipping back to their lazy ass default mode.
 
The Penalty Box Dancer said:
It's big in terms of players out of contract and better replacements required. How we do that remains to be seen.
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Well, who better to make the decisions than someone with the most experience of what it takes for a team at the lower end of the table to build and get success? Some random Portuguese geezer going to come in a work some magic on the transfer market by signing a bunch of world class unknowns?
 
AaronTheBlue said:
Look, i'm a big Moyes fan and i loved what he did for us in the past, but he's won 5 games in 16, lost as much as he's won.

He has wasted hundreds of millions on players over the past few years, despite his decent results with west ham, that can't be ignored.

Keeping moyes does not equal spending wisely, it is not the same moyes, it is not the same league.

I can almost guarantee you that he will want a certain type of player at a certain part of their career, and i do not think it will benefit us long term, and i hope i'm wrong on that, but i just don't see it that way.

Moyes also has plenty of friends in the agents worlds, he isn't this saintly figure who doesn't get involved in that nonsense, he does.

He will want ready made players, that will cost a premium, we can't afford to get this summer wrong.
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Moyes wasn’t the person in charge of transfers. Indeed, many of his picks (Eze, McTominay, Tarkowski) went on to do well elsewhere while he had to make do with second or third choice players or “gifts” from his chairman.
 
twoblue said:
So i reckon

I think managers are given a remit.
Moyes remit will be find value and pushing up the table. Style of football will be better than Dyche but not a priority.
This summer needs a forest style reset. We need more hits than misses, we can’t afford to be ripped off like agents. Pushing spent players on huge contracts.
Think Moyes over seeing this prevents this.
We need players that have a point to prove. Moyes specialised in getting players in an improving them.
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Forest broke the rules on spending and their “reset” involved signing a ridiculous number of players as they tried to make something stick.
 

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