2024/25 David Moyes

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He wasn’t backed, we never had a pot to piss in. The fact we were there at all was down to his recruitment and management. I agree he had his faults but he’s was the best manager we’ve had here ever since he left and that includes Carlo who lets be honest realised quickly the task he had.

And let’s be realistic with where we are and what we are asking any manager who comes in here now to do, middle of table stability is a big step forward, one which I will welcome for now. I can not sit through another season of this tripe and tensely watch as we battle relegation. Steady the ship, and build from there.
Agreed to an extent, but he was backed at Utd and Wham and got them the same results as us, as that's his ceiling. Not a bad thing, but not anything to be amazingly excited about.

I concede(d several times today hah) that we need that sort of stability, new stadium and all, but it also depends on how we do, as he's also failed at Sland and the 1st time at West Ham was also quite poor.

He has been a relatively successful midtable manager during his career though and we need that any way we can get it sadly.

I'm still not okay with it if we've given him a 2.5 years contract. 1.5 with an option for an extension should be the maximum, depending on what spending TFG want to do, but that's a different topic in a way.
 
The position we are in and still hamstring by PSR by all accounts, this decision makes sense.

Maybe not the exciting one we hoped for but definitely one that will get the best out of what we have for now
 
I haven’t posted for a really long time.

For me, this is fine. In a straight choice of dyche or moyes it’s moyes for me.

When he left and especially after he tried to unsettle players, i was really glad he failed at united. After his Spanish disaster, i actually got over it and felt a bit sorry for him. At least i felt kama has happened and we were “even”.

Moyes taking us into BMD as a premier league club will be absolutely fine by me. I’d have been happy for dyche to do it to be honest. Last season and the year before were terrific achievements from dyche and i think he’ll end up in time as very respected for keeping us up. This year was a disaster and dyche looked shot. Thanks for keeping us afloat, but it was clearly time for him to go, with some thanks for a job done quite well done (not this year) in strange times.

That said, I hated watching Everton under dyche, and lost a lot of love of Everton, but I really hated Everton during franks last season and even more during the FSW era.

Today i don’t feel as disconnected from Everton. I actually want to see the next game and am genuinely Interested to see if someone like Beto under moyes flourishes. Last week i had nothing to look forward to at all. I’ve even bothered to post!
Cast aside why he left.

He was, and is once again, Everton.

I am ok with that.
 
Nothing safe about Moyes, he completely destroyed Sunderland, he had ex Everton players on massive contracts crippling them all the way down to league one.

Some people have got selective memories on here.
The Sunderland that had finished 17th and 16th the seasons before... You can be against Moyes but come on, their fall was a lot bigger than one man.

Fair point on the ex Everton players but not really relevant here. If he could sign some West Ham players we'd be better off tbh. But we have a DoF here now so he won't have that sort of power anyway.
 

Of course, that's what being a fan is about. But ignoring or denying the comparison with what went before and after is a fantasy. Madness lies that way.
I think his quote demonstrates what he himself views as success for Everton as a club, and you could argue that it maybe proves the ‘glass ceiling’ argument that he’s been labelled with.

But I suppose for now, he just needs get us to score some goals and lead us to safety.
 
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Loppy was an absolute dreadful appointment for West Ham which is why he’s already gone . Moyes won 3 games after Christmas last season and left behind the smallest and oldest squad in the premier league. This season has just been a continuation of the rot served up by Moyes last year.
Moyes seemed to get found out after a couple of excellent seasons, playing counter-attack. Ironically the cup win came when our form was spiralling down - nearly relegated that season.
His subs are bizarre, his low block doesn’t seem to work (74 goals conceded last season) and there is absolutely no plan B. All after spending nearly half a billion (west ham are prems 5th biggest net spend over last five years)
Honestly, watching low possession, low block football and still getting beat for so long is why West Ham fans like myself wanted him moved on, not because we weren’t grateful for the cup win or longed for some mythical, media-spouted ‘West Ham way’ .
I just don’t see much difference between him and dyche , in the same way I didn’t see much difference between loppy and Moyes .
Good luck though Moyes
We can relate to all of that. It's terribly frustrating watching his teams and most Evertonians were glad to see him move on in 2013. The semi-final against our friendly neighbours and the cup final v Chelsea where we scored early and then got 11 behind the ball, losing both matches - I was losing my mind.

Delayed and weird subs - also check.

However, we were in serious danger of relegation in the seasons before he came. He stopped that. He left and most seasons since, we've been near the relegation zone AND playing crap football. I can't even any longer imagine us getting to a cup final or even a semi. Every other manager we've had makes either no subs until 70 mins or bizarre ones.

The euro cup win and poorer premier League performance are likely related. Every team, even those with vastly greater resources, hate playing all those extra matches midweek and it almost always affects league form for everyone except the top 3-4.

Well see how Potter does. He may be West Ham's Messiah. I doubt Davey will be ours but he might bring some relative stability.
 
Just read the bit where David Moyes describes Bramley Moore Dock as "our fabulous new stadium". Couldn't have imagined that a week ago. He wasn't my choice but I will get behind him and the team and I guess we will see where we are in 2 and a half years time. Deja vu.

The fact he's saying our from the word go is the right optics. Dyche always spoke about the club as though he was an outsider. Moyes actually cares beyond the money or is at least clever enough to pretend he does.
 

He is here now. He was not my choice. However, I want my team not to be relegated in the final season at Goodison. I want my team going into the new stadium in the top league. So I will get behind him.

We are a shambles. We need a complete rebuild. New owners, new manager, step by step we can do it.
 
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I haven’t posted for a really long time.

For me, this is fine. In a straight choice of dyche or moyes it’s moyes for me.

When he left and especially after he tried to unsettle players, i was really glad he failed at united. After his Spanish disaster, i actually got over it and felt a bit sorry for him. At least i felt kama has happened and we were “even”.

Moyes taking us into BMD as a premier league club will be absolutely fine by me. I’d have been happy for dyche to do it to be honest. Last season and the year before were terrific achievements from dyche and i think he’ll end up in time as very respected for keeping us up. This year was a disaster and dyche looked shot. Thanks for keeping us afloat, but it was clearly time for him to go, with some thanks for a job done quite well done (not this year) in strange times.

That said, I hated watching Everton under dyche, and lost a lot of love of Everton, but I really hated Everton during franks last season and even more during the FSW era.

Today i don’t feel as disconnected from Everton. I actually want to see the next game and am genuinely Interested to see if someone like Beto under moyes flourishes. Last week i had nothing to look forward to at all. I’ve even bothered to post!

Sums up a lot of it, this. Great post mate
 

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