2024/25 David Moyes

[Blue peter]

what I have seen of him this time round obviously.

Not sure you can make that assessment after five months with this squad of players when his general history recently suggests otherwise. I’d agree that his ceiling appears to be an average position of around 7th, but I’d take that next season. (As boring as it sounds)

 

[Thomasc]

what I have seen of him this time round obviously.

There isn’t a manager on the planet you would be happy with or willing to give a chance to unless they win every single game.

You are that delusional, unrealistic or possibly just misguided.

 

[COYBL25]

There isn’t a manager on the planet you would be happy with or willing to give a chance to unless they win every single game.

You are that delusional, unrealistic or possibly just misguided

Incorrect my friend, he was Allardyce’s number one fan boy.

To this day, no one has managed to work out why.

 

[Rob17896]

Player power has ruled that club since Ferguson left...that's why they're currently 2 places below us in the league.

Rooney said it himself that certain senior pro's at that time made Moyes's life very difficult.

Its also the same player power that seen off Jose,Oli and Rangnick.

Moyes was on a hiding to nothing at United.

Exactly!

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Exactly!

Sorry mate make that 3 places.

 

[windymiller]

If we didn't have 3 keepers and kids on the bench I could understand, but when it's a game against one of the promoted sides coming up (possibly) then hedging bets against last game survival and the circus with it seems justified.

If you say so. I'm lucky enough to be old enough to have seen us win something but there's a whole generation who haven't. Look at how the barcodes reacted to winning the league cup. I'm not lashing them, I think their reaction was perfectly justified. Winning things matter. It's weird to me that people prioritise qualifying for Europe over trying to actually win something. I get why clubs do it, it's cash innit, but the fans? I also think that losing begets losing and winning is a culture.

The example you gave is maybe fair enough, relegation would be a disaster, but loads of posters had the same attitude to the cups when we were a regular top half side. It's weird.

I would take an FA cup, a league cup or a Europa Conference League over a fourth place finish and a subsequent first knockout phase exit from the Champions League every day of the week. UEFA, Sky, TNT Sports and the football money machine have convinced everyone that making up the numbers in the CL is the second highest achievement in club football (after winning the CL) but it's not.

 

[GoldenToffee]

He's got us almost guaranteed finished above both Spurs and United, pretty remarkable given the condition we were in when he arrived.

 

[MACCA75]

Special shout out to Dyche for losing 4-0 to the worst Utd and Spurs sides of my lifetime.

 

[jamieni]

He's got us almost guaranteed finished above both Spurs and United, pretty remarkable given the condition we were in when he arrived.

If you’d have told any of us he’d have us 13th when he took over we’d have bitten your hand off for that. A very good job. We can’t ignore the limitations of the squad so not sure what more Moyes could have been realistically expected to do.

 

[Igrok]

All Moysey teams are fighting for 17th place trophy…

 

[Bedfordblue]

Player power has ruled that club since Ferguson left...that's why they're currently 2 places below us in the league.

Rooney said it himself that certain senior pro's at that time made Moyes's life very difficult.

Its also the same player power that seen off Jose,Oli and Rangnick.

Moyes was on a hiding to nothing at United.

There’s another perspective where Moyes has the opportunity to stamp some authority on the team but bottled it, empowering the players to see him and his following managers off. Arguably the issue with ‘player power’ started with him as it most certainly wasn’t there before.

Appreciate there’s a certain dynamic at Man Utd where there’s so much invested in the players contracts it’s easier to blame the manager than drop or transfer players, but Ferguson’s shadow was still looming large at Moyes time there, I’m sure his endorsement of Moyes should have carried some weight.

 

[COYBL25]

Special shout out to Dyche for losing 4-0 to the worst Utd and Spurs sides of my lifetime.

And losing twice to the worst team in the league, Southampton.

 

[PhilM]

Incorrect my friend, he was Allardyce’s number one fan boy.

To this day, no one has managed to work out why.

He might have 'greased' the gravy wheels.

 

[salmon fingers]

Not sure you can make that assessment after five months with this squad of players when his general history recently suggests otherwise. I’d agree that his ceiling appears to be an average position of around 7th, but I’d take that next season. (As boring as it sounds)

That doesn't sound boring at all after the last 5 years 7th would be a really good year. I have actually enjoyed the last 4 months as much as any time since Carlo left.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

If you'd have shown our fans this the day Moyes took over and told them this is were we'd be going into the Southampton game,they'd be kissing his feet.

Brilliant achievement from the gaffer.