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There is no way you can say he would have “wilted” he has the same squad and has got them scoring on most games and picking up more points.
Chances are we would have been nowhere near the relegation zone last year if he had started the season with us .
The points deductions would not have had us fighting for our lives
knowing your history
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Think Moyes had West Ham finishing 6th in his first full season.
He will need to sign very very well in one window to come anywhere near that next season.
Not making it a Moyes v Dyche thing, but making a point of being the same team and Moyes hauled us away from the danger zone with plenty to spare. Now my comparison is that Dyches team was crap with poor players and so is Moyes team but regardless of the wishes of Everton fans wanting so & so dropped and so & so playing together he still gets a mauling despite games being dead rubbers. So what shall he do? Look at all the squad (what many fans wanted) or stick with players that many wanted dropped. The season is safe and the season is over, half the team are not fit for the shirt but the polishing of a turd is still expected.
davek
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Your having a laugh. Look at the points tally under Lampard then Dyche's first season here we were left with a mountain to climb in January.
Moyes wasn't under anywhere near that pressure this January. We were safe and had half a season left...with no points deductions.
Moyes has done nothing special since he came back. We can all see that now.
Chelsea away, Arsenal , Liverpool , city and high flying Forrest in that run though .
And Ipswich, united, and West Ham (all below us) at home and wolves (also below us) away. So in other words, a pretty standard run of fixtures.
We were 1 point above the relegation zone and scoring around 3 goals every 10 games …
How on gods green earth were we “safe”
knowing your history
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I'm happy with him leading the club into BMD. I'm sure he was given that as a guarentee when he agreed everything in January and he's kept his side of the bargain keeping the club up so comfortably.
However I'm a little concerned by how things are fizzling out. Not so much away but I was expecting Goodison to get a better winning send off than this.
Can't be having yet another season of one win in first six/seven as was the Dyche speciality as then seasons just become a grind and you're constantly looking over your shoulder in the winter months and it will just feel like all the recent seasons in a new setting.
I think Moyes will still keep things ticking over competently enough but in 12 months time they'll be expectation then the club should be looking for an upgrade as they'll also have been two more transfer windows to improve the first 11 and squad.
A really good cup run would be welcome aswell.
You don’t need to tell me the squads poor, that’s my whole point. I understood the squad was poor when dyche was here but a hell of a lot of people kept telling me it wasn’t and we were massively underachieving. My point is just that if you thought that was the case then then you still should now. I think Moyes is doing fine because I think this is how good the squad is, but if you were saying we were a top half side - which plenty were - then you shouldn’t be saying failing to beat Ipswich at home is just one of them things now.
You can’t blow a 2 goal lead at home
You just can’t
Very poor from Moyes
You just can’t
Very poor from Moyes
2 years of Moyes and midtable finishes would be a big improvement on the absolute rubbish served up in recent years.
davek
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We had a game in hand too...and we were never the basket case clubs below us. We were hardly on the receiving end of a defeat. Draws did for Dyche.
Look at the bottom three now...the best off them have got 5 points more than when Dyche was here.
We were safe.
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