2024/25 David Moyes

[ToffeeTim]

So you honestly think Moyes will rather sign a player who will be great for Everton in three years but ok until then over a player who will be good for two then crap?

I think he'll want a combination of experience for the here and now and younger players for the next few seasons who will hopefully improve.

We need like 10 players. It is going to a mixture of the two. It can't all be one or other, it needs to be a bit of both.

 

[bluestevon]

The.

Fellaini was a great big money transfer. Yakubu.

Yup those are his biggest two - the next four highest are AJ, Beattie, Billy and AVdM.

 

[Rita_Poon]

The.


Yup those are his biggest two - the next four highest are AJ, Beattie, Billy and AVdM.

Johnson - £8.6m signed, £10.5m sold.
Beattie - £6m signed, £4m sold.
Bilyaletdinov - signed £9m, £5m sold.
VdM - signed £2m, contract expired.

:/

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

I don't like any of you.

Worst day of my life

 

[Bluerover]

I've heard through the grapevine that TFG are fine missing out on targets as their approach is make an offer, then wait after it's rejected, then come back with only a slightly improved offer at the last minute

* Taps nose *

Like I posted earlier, just like haggling at a flea market or car boot sale - I can do that!!

Gizza job TFG

 

[detroiturk15]

Re: structure -

James Smith came over from City, he's in charge of scouting and recruitment. Nick Hammond from Leeds is focused on "trading" (likely the negotiation over fees, wages etc)

Angus Kinnear oversees all of those different "departments." Moyes doesn't have 100% responsibility over any part of a transfer anymore, but there can't be doubt in anyone's mind - the first team would not sign a player without some sort of approval from him. Most likely, he's working with Nick Cox (came from United) to identify where there are needs, James Smith and his team say "here's your list of 10-20 players for that role", and then from there it's about negotiating.

Not any one person's fault if a deal can't be reached.

 

[Davideeyore]

Saw the Toffee TV presser Moyes sounds upbeat and confident. About getting players in by the end of the window. I'll take that. Hope he can get a tune out of what we've currently got.

It'll be a slog of a start going by pre season.

 

[MACCA75]

Feel like Moyes has been told to stop being so negative as it’s putting players off, so expecting a load of optimistic quotes from him at the game.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Feel like Moyes has been told to stop being so negative as it’s putting players off, so expecting a load of optimistic quotes from him at the game.

His last presser did seem a bit more upbeat I thought, was going to post something similar but thought I’ll see how he reacts to losing tonight!

 

[Gilbert..]

All depends on if at every club you attribute recruitment to him or not mate - my memory of Moyes at us is picking up great bargains but absolutely busting out almost every time he paid a big fee.

The games changed hugely those bargains are now the types the Brighton model picks up on through data.

It's nice to remember Cahill and arteta etc, but the same guy recruited Drenthe, AVdM, a can't head a ball centre back for a then massive fee for us, fat pie beattie, and a good few other absolute busts. I won't go into the other clubs after us like west ham etc as I genuinely know he was in control here and I don't at those clubs.

Mate you've cherry picked a few names out there. Drenthe was a season loan. Meyde was 2m. You've thrown in per kroldrup and seem to have conveniently forgotten leighton baines Phil jagielka joleon lescott Sylvian distin.....

 

[Zatara]

Not sure why a lot of Evertonisns can't see what Moyes is doing.

He hates working with a DOF and not being the one buying players. It's quite clear looking at business done, bids gone in and Moyes reaction and comments especially so s out needing experienced premier proven players, that he's been frozen out of being the main decider of who we buy.

And his comments are designed to get the recruitment to bend to his will and bring in the experienced players he wants.

Hopefully the bus for Dibling shows they've completely ignored him as Moyes would stack this squad with soucek, Longstaff and that ilk.

I think Moyes has given them a list of McGinns.

Players for his contract of 2 years.

While the club has contacted them and been told the high prices for instant players.

Theyve now rightly moved on to players of high potential.

This is why Moyes is annoyed.

I would far rather see Moyes get the players he wants than any DOF or recruitment committee. I trust him far more.

The DOF model has been a complete failure since it was introduced at Everton. So many players signed who didn't suit what the manager was trying to do. And so many seasons where the manager was not backed with the players they needed.

They didnt have the right DOF & Manager pairing

I think Moyes would target good players who will help now and in the future. That's what he always did.

What I dont want to see is players being signed for the manager who don't suit the way he wants to play.

Hes not done this for 10 years

Moyes thought being Everton and having a new stadium would be enough to convince players, utterly clueless imo, might need to accept that some players won't want too play safety first football either. The slow negotiations are frustrating for everyone I do agree but at the end of the day I think its just trying to avoid a repeat of the last few years, at the end of the day Moyes is not a finance guy and should leave it too those who are. This is why most teams don't do the old school manager thing anymore, they are all just control freaks and the game has moved on and clubs don't (generally) work in a way that befits a character like that imo. The DoF thing didn't work here because we always paired them with managers and not head coach types.

Its super negative.

Disagree. Moyes showed he can get a poor team punching above its weight by a fair amount at West Ham.

Mourinho was poor at Spurs and at other places.

And he signed many of the players in the poor team

Re: structure -

James Smith came over from City, he's in charge of scouting and recruitment. Nick Hammond from Leeds is focused on "trading" (likely the negotiation over fees, wages etc)

Angus Kinnear oversees all of those different "departments." Moyes doesn't have 100% responsibility over any part of a transfer anymore, but there can't be doubt in anyone's mind - the first team would not sign a player without some sort of approval from him. Most likely, he's working with Nick Cox (came from United) to identify where there are needs, James Smith and his team say "here's your list of 10-20 players for that role", and then from there it's about negotiating.

Not any one person's fault if a deal can't be reached.

Smith isnt here until september

Moyes, Kinner & Hammond.

 

[hallamblue]

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that Moyes is talking the team down, it's what he does. Goes on about howlimited the squad is, how he can't spend any money compared to other clubs etc. Then if the team does badly he can claim it's not his fault, and if they do well he can claim it's because he's a great manager. It's his worst trait.

 

[smileychap]

Get hojlund Mr Moyes, now go with two upfront