Daily Post article

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http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk...up-a-slick-move-for-everton-64375-21508429/2/

I read it on from the link on the Toffeeweb page. This paragraph got on my goat -
"What would happen to Everton Football Club in another 20 or 50 years if they were out of sight and out of mind from the football-mad youngsters living in the city?
With one major trophy in the past 20 years, Everton have a hard enough task as it is attracting young fans who have never seen them win a cup in their lifetime to pledge their allegiances to them ahead of Liverpool, who are still regularly competing for honours.
A move to Kirkby won’t give them any excuse as it could totally alter the image of one of the most traditional institutions in English football that dubs itself ‘The People’s Club.’
Instead of entering Liverpool and seeing a sign saying the ‘the home of Everton FC and Liverpool FC’ this would be a one-club city with Everton just becoming a fringe rival from another part of Merseyside like Tranmere Rovers.
So instead of mourning the potential demise of Destination Kirkby, Evertonians can instead look forward to the prospect of their board getting their heads together with the great minds at Liverpool City Council and coming up with great sites for a stadium closer to ‘The Grand Old Lady’."


The same old arguement then - because its 4 miles out of the city the club would/could be just another rival of Tranmere Rovers and would cease to be Everton FC as we know it. That the kids wouldn't support the team years down the line. And Oh, we should move on and get our heads with the "great minds" of Liverpool City Council.

And they get paid to write this [Poor language removed]?

I'm not being drawn into another Kirkby debate. But Its just lazy journalism to me. Narrow minded, probably written by a kopite or (it sounds like) someone in the Councils back pocket.

 

[Nebbiolo]

I don't know whether being in Kirkby would help with a fan base unless we win many honours. On the other hand, being in the city of Liverpool, in a reasonably central location, does offer the club the chance to recruit new support. But then I'm really opposed to Kirkby, so I would say that!

 

[kenada_blue]

But my argument regarding younger fans from the city is that they support the team because their family supports and that gets passed on and so on and so on -- its a tradition.

For years, decades even, supporting the red [Poor language removed] has been the "glorified" option, following the most successful club and there an "easier" safer team to support compared to us (top 4 finishes, cups, champs league, money to spend etc). So moving a few miles away wouldnt change that. And like you said, if the team got success from it the fans would double.

Like I said, I'm not going into the debate whether its right or wrong. Staying in the city does no wrong. But to pretty much say Everton would cease to be Everton if we moved is just silly.

 

[Nebbiolo]

You might be right and Kirkby is, effectively, Liverpool. I've always viewed it as a scouse area. I'm still worried, though. The future of Liverpool could be great and I want the club to be fully associated with it.

 

[kenada_blue]

I agree. But linking up with the "great minds" of Liverpool City Council after the DK saga didnt build too many bridges did it? lol

 

[billytoffee]

Oh, we should move on and get our heads with the "great minds" of Liverpool City Council.

Anyone with half a brain cell could work out that this is probably one of the key areas that this little plan would fall on its arse:-

Great Minds & Liverpool City council in the same sentence !!!!

[Poor language removed] your having a laugh.

 

[kenada_blue]

Anyone with half a brain cell could work out that this is probably one of the key areas that this little plan would fall on its arse:-

Great Minds & Liverpool City council in the same sentence !!!!

[Poor language removed] your having a laugh.

Did you read the article? That's what was written the "great minds of Liverpool City Council"

Its why it got on my goat.

So you [Poor language removed]

 

[billytoffee]

Did you read the article? That's what was written the "great minds of Liverpool City Council"

Its why it got on my goat.

So you [Poor language removed]

Put your handbag away softlad - my comment was aimed at the article not you

 

[davek]

The Post and Echo are arsewipes...on this ocassion though that reporter has it right. We'd have become Tranmere Rovers out there on the West Lancashire plain. Thank [Poor language removed] Desperation Kirkby is just a nightmare we awoke from in time.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

i dont live in liverpool or come from liverpool.

i live 1/2 way down the east lancs and tbh i've never seen so many kids in blue as at the moment, there were quite a few of us when i was a kid but not as many as today, there's kits everywhere.

here it's an equal distance to goodison, the shoitehole, o.t., citeh yet still kids are chosen in this area. majority follow family i reckon. hard to comment on in the city as i dont know but i know there's a fair old convoy up the lancs on matchdays, and trains are always full as well.

when will a journo criticise lcc for their part in all of this though, when will people take notice, the fact that 50% (prob wrong but lets say 50) are rs doesnt help as they really arent arsed.

 

[kenada_blue]

Put your handbag away softlad - my comment was aimed at the article not you

lol i did think that actually, soz mate.

As for becoming the new Tranmere, i think thats bollocks to be honest. Wouldve it been so different had we had moved there years ago, when 80% of fans favoured a move there ?

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Anyone with half a brain cell could work out that this is probably one of the key areas that this little plan would fall on its arse:-

Great Minds & Liverpool City council in the same sentence !!!!

[Poor language removed] your having a laugh.

It is a bit of an oxymoron

 

[DENNIS STEVENS]

i thought the article was a tad hypocritical, seeing as the local press seem to have largely sung from the club's hymn sheet over kirkby - then again, maybe they still are : apparently wyness didn't "get" everton. how convenient : a scapegoat. can't say it's undeserved though.

 

[toffeestillidie]

i think its possible the article may have tried to make a valid point, it just went about it in a [Poor language removed] terrible way

i think what they were trying to say is everton are viewed as a more historically significant, traditional club, and a gigantic venue like kirkby with an adjacent tesco would kill that image. and since everton's main appeal is the whole traditional thing, a kirkby move, even if its just 4 miles down the road and its better for club revenue, would kill some of our historical and traditional appeal, and we still won't be able to compete in the highly-commercial glory hunter segment of football, so essentially we'd be seemingly abandoning one of our club's greatest strengths

i'm not saying i agree at all, i don't have views either way about kirkby because i don't live in liverpool, but at the very least atleast i can sort of see what he's trying to say.