Cycling thread

[Rita_Poon]

I have given up on politicians TBH they are all the same imo.

 

[Root66]

Pogacar is in a league of his own, best of all time.

Great ride by Ben Healy to get the bronze, been a brilliant year for him

I honestly think your getting into the greatest athlete and sportsman of all time territory now.

Another destruction again today. I know merxc still holds loads of records but he was racing against ket and phet heads from 2 countries.

This is pure dominance

 

[Root66]

I hope he bins the tour off next season and does the giro and Vuelta. I'd like to see vino, del Toro, almeida and ayuso battle at the tour

 

[Root66]

What a joke again.
Its time there's an Investigation

I can give you the results from that...he's just better than anyone else.

He has insane lactate clearance.
He has insane pain tolerance
His lactate clearance allows his FTP to be leagues above anyone else.

His VO2 max is actually lower than Jonas. But the fact he clears lactate and his body actually turns it into fuel means he can be heavier and more muscular.

It means when he puts the foot down (Jonas can match him for a bit) he can keep it going for much longer. Only MVDP can match.

Now Jonas actually put muscle and weight on this year to try and solve that part of the Pog equation, and it worked. But what he can't fix is matching him over 15 mins and NOT 1 minute.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

I can give you the results from that...he's just better than anyone else.

He has insane lactate clearance.
He has insane pain tolerance
His lactate clearance allows his FTP to be leagues above anyone else.

His VO2 max is actually lower than Jonas. But the fact he clears lactate and his body actually turns it into fuel means he can be heavier and more muscular.

It means when he puts the foot down (Jonas can match him for a bit) he can keep it going for much longer. Only MVDP can match.

Now Jonas actually put muscle and weight on this year to try and solve that part of the Pog equation, and it worked. But what he can't fix is matching him over 15 mins and NOT 1 minute.

Vingegaard has beaten him twice, but, like you said, nutrition and technology have come a long way since 2023.

This is what you get when the dominant rider is playing with cheatcodes

 

[Root66]

I'll also add. To this point he's been extremely lucky with crashes. He hasn't had a bad one.

Vin and remco both have.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Lombardia tomorrow - as the last classic in the season you used to get a lot of unpredictability. Most riders tired after a long season, some coming back after missing periods with injury and wanting to do well. Not any more - the race belongs to Pog more than any other. Cannot really lose head to head, but maybe something untoward will happen. Like he stops for a pint midway out of boredom.

MvdP announced he will ride a similar cross schedule to last year, which is good news. Unfortunately he has no rivals nowadays, so it's hard to appreciate just what a ridiculous level he rides at. He laid down some of the hardest technical riding ever seen last year, any discipline, but it was like watching an off-road time trial rather than a race.

 

[TheWinslowBoy]

Lombardia tomorrow - as the last classic in the season you used to get a lot of unpredictability. Most riders tired after a long season, some coming back after missing periods with injury and wanting to do well. Not any more - the race belongs to Pog more than any other. Cannot really lose head to head, but maybe something untoward will happen. Like he stops for a pint midway out of boredom.

MvdP announced he will ride a similar cross schedule to last year, which is good news. Unfortunately he has no rivals nowadays, so it's hard to appreciate just what a ridiculous level he rides at. He laid down some of the hardest technical riding ever seen last year, any discipline, but it was like watching an off-road time trial rather than a race.

I just had a look on Bet365.
You can get 4/1 on any one of the other 174 riders to beat him. Which is just absurd.

Incidentally I was tempted by Onley each way at 250/1. Is he not capable of conceivably staying with a Pog attack on a climb for a while before cracking?

I don't think he could win but basically 50/1 for top 3 seemed quite generous on a course with a lot of climbing.

 

[Hangleton]

There is a slight possibility he gets away with a team mate and gifts the win

 

[Root66]

Pog went full nuclear on the last climb. Started 2.30 behind and finished a minute up by the top

He's an absolute freak

 

[Root66]

I just had a look on Bet365.
You can get 4/1 on any one of the other 174 riders to beat him. Which is just absurd.

Incidentally I was tempted by Onley each way at 250/1. Is he not capable of conceivably staying with a Pog attack on a climb for a while before cracking?

I don't think he could win but basically 50/1 for top 3 seemed quite generous on a course with a lot of climbing.

Nobody can stay with a pog attack on a climb. It was a bit sad today tbh when he went and it showed Remcos head just drop.

Jonas is the only one who can cover one of his attacks, but he can only do that for about 30 secs