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Disgusting this.

Teams shouldn't be banned from races by race organisers because of protests. Pathetic. Where does that end?

However they should be banned by the UCI and the IOC (and Fifa etc) for representing or, in IPTs case, promoting a country whose government is currently committing genocide. And it shouldn't need a protest.
 
Disgusting this.

Teams shouldn't be banned from races by race organisers because of protests. Pathetic. Where does that end?

However they should be banned by the UCI and the IOC (and Fifa etc) for representing or, in IPTs case, promoting a country whose government is currently committing genocide. And it shouldn't need a protest.
One is provoking the other: the fact that the UCI haven't thrown the genocide apologists out has put the emphasis on race organisers to do their work for them or face a wrecked race. I'm sure it's only under the extreme circumstances of a genocide that these race organisers would act. I cant see them caving in for anything less.
 
One is provoking the other: the fact that the UCI haven't thrown the genocide apologists out has put the emphasis on race organisers to do their work for them or face a wrecked race. I'm sure it's only under the extreme circumstances of a genocide that these race organisers would act. I cant see them caving in for anything less.
We're on the same side here, but playing devil's advocate a bit, imagine a fictional scenario where a furious racist mob are disrupting a race because they don't think Girmay should be allowed to race because he's black.
And eventually race organisers ban him, for public safety concerns.

You, I, and all right thinking people would be absolutely enraged. I'm obviously making an exaggerated point, but my point is these decisions should be taken at a much higher level, and when the UN declares a genocide that should be sufficient grounds to ban national (or quasi-national) sports teams, like we did with apartheid South Africa.

Incidentally I've got more sympathy for individual Israeli (and Russian for that matter) athletes, as I don't believe we should treat people differently on the basis of where they were born.
 
We're on the same side here, but playing devil's advocate a bit, imagine a fictional scenario where a furious racist mob are disrupting a race because they don't think Girmay should be allowed to race because he's black.
And eventually race organisers ban him, for public safety concerns.

You, I, and all right thinking people would be absolutely enraged. I'm obviously making an exaggerated point, but my point is these decisions should be taken at a much higher level, and when the UN declares a genocide that should be sufficient grounds to ban national (or quasi-national) sports teams, like we did with apartheid South Africa.

Incidentally I've got more sympathy for individual Israeli (and Russian for that matter) athletes, as I don't believe we should treat people differently on the basis of where they were born.
As I say, I think they would stand up to pressure in scenarios like that. Genocide is the ultimate crime though and therefore you can see why they'd act unilaterally and ban a team from taking part. I dont think that's caving in to a baying mob, more going with their consciences due to the crime of the century taking place.
 

Cyclocross has been lined up for the winter Olympics for a while now, and seems to be be in the frame (along with cross country running) for 2030.

Cross on actual snow, like in a ski area, is a gimmick and would be bad. But the winter Olympics is getting greener / muddier with climate change, so actual cross on a mix of snow / mud as per N European racing would be great. van der Poel still probably the GoaT at 35yo in 2030.

 

I've got an art show in Amsterdam on tv, and they're showcasing pushbikes, and it got me thinking, are ebikes allowed in Holland...

Well, it turns out they are, and there's some rules @Joey66

Yes, standard electric bikes (e-bikes) are legal in the Netherlands, but they are regulated differently from high-speed e-bikes called speed pedelecs. Standard e-bikes are limited to 25 km/h and are treated like regular bicycles, while speed pedelecs can go up to 45 km/h and are classified as mopeds, requiring a helmet, moped license, insurance, and a license plate.

The uk, slowest on the uptake once again. Rule brittania huh!
 
I've got an art show in Amsterdam on tv, and they're showcasing pushbikes, and it got me thinking, are ebikes allowed in Holland...

Well, it turns out they are, and there's some rules @Joey66

Yes, standard electric bikes (e-bikes) are legal in the Netherlands, but they are regulated differently from high-speed e-bikes called speed pedelecs. Standard e-bikes are limited to 25 km/h and are treated like regular bicycles, while speed pedelecs can go up to 45 km/h and are classified as mopeds, requiring a helmet, moped license, insurance, and a license plate.

The uk, slowest on the uptake once again. Rule brittania huh!
It will happen one day over here !
 

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