Current Affairs Culture wars & The rise of grifting

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Decent read on whether scientists should engage with grifters or not. In this case, an archaeologist debates whether to go on Rogan and have an exchange with a fraudster/pseudoscientist.

That was a nice piece. I’ve seen Hancock say before he’d bottled doing this but didn’t realise it was due to cancer treatment. What a POS.

In many cases I would say they absolutely shouldn’t as it creates a ‘both sides of an argument’ debate and legitimises the opposing view when in actual fact you’re arguing against pure quackery. It’s not within the realms of normal debate. There is no ‘winner’ and no one gets ‘destroyed’ except from 20 second out of context clips.

Maybe archaeology is slightly different in this context. Hancock is an egotistical slime ball. Would love to boot him all over.
 
That was a nice piece. I’ve seen Hancock say before he’d bottled doing this but didn’t realise it was due to cancer treatment. What a POS.

In many cases I would say they absolutely shouldn’t as it creates a ‘both sides of an argument’ debate and legitimises the opposing view when in actual fact you’re arguing against pure quackery. It’s not within the realms of normal debate. There is no ‘winner’ and no one gets ‘destroyed’ except from 20 second out of context clips.

Maybe archaeology is slightly different in this context. Hancock is an egotistical slime ball. Would love to boot him all over.
Debate is absolutely the most overrated format of conversation, it provides zero teaching ultimately.
 
Debate is absolutely the most overrated format of conversation, it provides zero teaching ultimately.



Debate used to be two subject matter experts hammering it out. I'm sure they are useful to scientists, doctors, historians etc. who have high base-level knowledge in what they are talking about, can critically engage with the concepts being discussed and are able to create a two-way conversation they both can learn from.

Today, the term "debate" is getting ascribed to gormless ex-footballers who claim Bill Gates is planting chips in people, telling doctors that a global pandemic is a false flag. I don't have a problem with debate so much as the very loose, almost meaningless, modern concept of it.
 
Debate is absolutely the most overrated format of conversation, it provides zero teaching ultimately.

100%.

The best example of this is the one between de las Casas and Sepulveda over whether the people in the New World that the Spanish had encountered were humans or not (and therefore whether enslaving / exploiting / genociding them was justifiable). This was fifty-plus years after the conquistadors first landed, and ten years after the then Pope had told everyone they were humans and must not be treated harshly. There was no conclusion to the debate.
 
Decent read on whether scientists should engage with grifters or not. In this case, an archaeologist debates whether to go on Rogan and have an exchange with a fraudster/pseudoscientist.

Oh god no, don't talk to people whatever you do, ffs.
 
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