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DuuuncanHadaPigeon said:
No, you went quiet last time I countered you.

You conflated sending spam mail 20 years ago, with being a notorious scammer. It's just not the same thing at all.

If I send you a spam mail trying to sell you something, have you been scammed??

Look it's really simple, if he is such a notorious scammer, then it should be very easy to show me who he is scammed and you can't just post those links again (spam mail is not the same as being a notorious scammer). I want you to show me real victims of RH, people who have lost money due to his scams.

'who holds all the ETH that hexicans stake' - dear me, I mean what does this even mean, you don't stake ETH... If you are going to try and criticize HEX at least do a cursory bit of research on how it works.
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Sorry, got my terms a bit mixed up but you use ETH to get Hex don’t you? And the origin address has that ETH. And no one knows who owns it and Richard Heart dodges any questions about it.

As for showing you real people that have lost money due to his scams, do you have a list of Hexicans who have got involved in the last 7/8 months?
 

Wizard said:
Sorry, got my terms a bit mixed up but you use ETH to get Hex don’t you? And the origin address has that ETH. And no one knows who owns it and Richard Heart dodges any questions about it.

As for showing you real people that have lost money due to his scams, do you have a list of Hexicans who have got involved in the last 7/8 months?
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You can trade any crypto asset for HEX. In the early days the easiest way was to use the AA lobby, where you would send ETH and get HEX in return. You were essentially buying HEX with ETH. If that ETH goes to the founder of HEX/origin address then what is the problem? If I buy something from the shop, I don't demand to know what the shopkeeper does with my money.

If you knew that RH controlled the origin address then you might expect him to do something with the OA, like buying a lot of HEX, this would lead to profit from the work of others and HEX would be classified as a security. If you don't know who or what entity controls the OA then it is unreasonable to expect it to do anything. For the record chain analysis proves that the OA has never sold a single HEX.

That is dumb logic. Netflix is down 70% ytd, paypal 60%, moderna 45% that must make these companies scams too because if you invested 6 months ago you would be down...

I am still waiting for you to show me a victim of this supposed notorious scammer.
 
DuuuncanHadaPigeon said:
You can trade any crypto asset for HEX. In the early days the easiest way was to use the AA lobby, where you would send ETH and get HEX in return. You were essentially buying HEX with ETH. If that ETH goes to the founder of HEX/origin address then what is the problem? If I buy something from the shop, I don't demand to know what the shopkeeper does with my money.

If you knew that RH controlled the origin address then you might expect him to do something with the OA, like buying a lot of HEX, this would lead to profit from the work of others and HEX would be classified as a security. If you don't know who or what entity controls the OA then it is unreasonable to expect it to do anything. For the record chain analysis proves that the OA has never sold a single HEX.

That is dumb logic. Netflix is down 70% ytd, paypal 60%, moderna 45% that must make these companies scams too because if you invested 6 months ago you would be down...

I am still waiting for you to show me a victim of this supposed notorious scammer.
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He got successfully sued in Washington for his spamming. People don’t tend to sue if they haven’t lost out in some way so there is one victim. Also, not all scams result in financial loss.
 
Wizard said:
He got successfully sued in Washington for his spamming. People don’t tend to sue if they haven’t lost out in some way so there is one victim. Also, not all scams result in financial loss.
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He got sued for $500 in a small claims court in 2002, in a state with the strictest spam laws. He has said on stream that he was living in Florida at the time and it would have cost him more to travel there than the fine itself so didn't even show up. Is this really what you are pinning your 'notorious scammer' label on?

What about his years volunteering for a charity, the SENS foundation, and helping to raise $27,000,000 for said the foundation. Does that count for nothing because he got fined $500 in a small claims court 20 years ago?

Changing the goalposts now? I would like to know what these other scams are. I think if you asked people 99% would say if you have been scammed you have lost money in some form.
 



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