Cricket

Two modern legends of the game.

It saddens me as a test match fan that I wouldn't recognise either of them if I were to stand next to them. Thanks to sky I haven't been able to follow their test careers.

I can't be the only one. And they wonder why interest in test cricket is on the wane.
 
A lovely way to end the summer with another very special record.

Love watching Jimmy bowl. A proper craftsman, a magician who swings or seams the delivery almost to order and who just seems a like normal bloke.

Guess that's why he's the England fan's favourite.

564 test wickets.

36 years old, still right on top of his game.

Well done Rashid too, justifying his selection, that crucial wicket was Shane Warne-like.

I thought this was a bit off earlier this afternoon

On the BBC's feed -

Amy Lofthouse
BBC Sport at The Oval
It's a long, long way off yet, but a few people have started talking about that County Championship match against Middlesex and Yorkshire a few years ago. Back in 2014 Yorkshire, led by Root, set Middlesex 472 to win their Division One match. Middlesex promptly chased it down to win by seven wickets, and Root had the nickname 'craptain' bestowed on by the dressing room. I still think England will win, but it's been a very strange tactical display since lunch.

What a way for a BBC journalist to talk about the England captain.

Pretty sure his team mates won't be slagging his captaincy off in the style MV and his mates Swann and Tufnell do on TMS.

Ludicrous, really need to better their reporting, MV and mates on TMS, throwing hissy fits when Root doesn't declare seems to be their new speciality.
 
Two modern legends of the game.

It saddens me as a test match fan that I wouldn't recognise either of them if I were to stand next to them. Thanks to sky I haven't been able to follow their test careers.

I can't be the only one. And they wonder why interest in test cricket is on the wane.

Its on the wane overseas not in England, we still sell out test matches on non working days.

Its far more to do with lifeless flat wickets overseas where 600 plays 550-5 and a draw, nothing whatsover to do with coverage here imo where test matches are still well attended and followed.

England this century have been far more successful than the 1980s and 90s, especially around the period of 2009-12.

(Channel 5 does do test highlights atm - on right now at 7 pm)
 
Its on the wane overseas not in England, we still sell out test matches on non working days.

Its far more to do with lifeless flat wickets overseas where 600 plays 550-5 and a draw, nothing whatsover to do with coverage here imo where test matches are still well attended and followed.

England this century have been far more successful than the 1980s and 90s, especially around the period of 2009-12.

(Channel 5 does do test highlights atm - on right now at 7 pm)

..from what the ‘experts’ say, the Duke ball also appears to make the games more competitive.
 
Its on the wane overseas not in England, we still sell out test matches on non working days.

Its far more to do with lifeless flat wickets overseas where 600 plays 550-5 and a draw, nothing whatsover to do with coverage here imo where test matches are still well attended and followed.

England this century have been far more successful than the 1980s and 90s, especially around the period of 2009-12.

(Channel 5 does do test highlights atm - on right now at 7 pm)
I saw Bob Willis on the telly the other day and instantly knew who he was. Not seen him for 35 years! My childhood summer was spent with him and his ilk on the tv all day for 5 days - back when the BBC was the pinnacle of broadcasting.

Yeah, but if I were interested in highlights, then maybe there'd be a glimmer in the hit and hope wham-bam-thank you man limited overs game. Frankly, that leaves me stone cold. It's not cricket to my eyes.

The beauty of test cricket is its slow shift of power and psychology. Its build up over days and even a series. It's the burble on in the background.

Highlights are a poor, poor substitute.
 
I saw Bob Willis on the telly the other day and instantly knew who he was. Not seen him for 35 years! My childhood summer was spent with him and his ilk on the tv all day for 5 days - back when the BBC was the pinnacle of broadcasting.

Yeah, but if I were interested in highlights, then maybe there'd be a glimmer in the hit and hope wham-bam-thank you man limited overs game. Frankly, that leaves me stone cold. It's not cricket to my eyes.

The beauty of test cricket is its slow shift of power and psychology. Its build up over days and even a series. It's the burble on in the background.

Highlights are a poor, poor substitute.

Last live cricket I saw on telly was the Ashes, 2005. Remember so much of the series even now.

Wouldnt recognise 80% of the England team if they delivered my post tomorrow.

Shame, cos its the best form of the game, by a mile.
 
I saw Bob Willis on the telly the other day and instantly knew who he was. Not seen him for 35 years! My childhood summer was spent with him and his ilk on the tv all day for 5 days - back when the BBC was the pinnacle of broadcasting.

Yeah, but if I were interested in highlights, then maybe there'd be a glimmer in the hit and hope wham-bam-thank you man limited overs game. Frankly, that leaves me stone cold. It's not cricket to my eyes.

The beauty of test cricket is its slow shift of power and psychology. Its build up over days and even a series. It's the burble on in the background.

Highlights are a poor, poor substitute.

I've always been a test cricket fanatic too, the BBC's coverage of it though was very poor in my memory, although I sometimes still look back fondly at the high points forgetting the frustrations, cricket was very poorly covered even by the standards pertaining to the other developed playing countries especially Australia.

Those were the days of far less cameras, watching from behind the keeper every other over, interruptions for horse racing every 20 mins or trooping of the colour (a whole morning lost) and a far poorer analysis.

Australian broadcasting, highlights of the ashes down under at the time, showed it up for the poor standard it was, we could actually watch with a camera at both ends, and Channel 4 upped the standards of coverage and analysis quite markedly when they took over the broadcasting rights.

I fully agree highlights are an extremely poor substitute and only just better than a quick update at the end of the day, but it would give some recognition of the main protagonists at least, something you said you lacked.

While there's no comparison with test cricket, the longer form 50 overs game is slightly better and can be far more tactical than the hitting fest of T20. However I find no real connection between test highlights and either really, other than highlights are just what it says, the high points of the day condensed into an hour long program, but that's extremely loose indeed imo.
 
I've always been a test cricket fanatic too, the BBC's coverage of it though was very poor in my memory, although I sometimes still look back fondly at the high points forgetting the frustrations, cricket was very poorly covered even by the standards pertaining to the other developed playing countries especially Australia.

Those were the days of far less cameras, watching from behind the keeper every other over, interruptions for horse racing every 20 mins or trooping of the colour (a whole morning lost) and a far poorer analysis.

Australian broadcasting, highlights of the ashes down under at the time, showed it up for the poor standard it was, we could actually watch with a camera at both ends, and Channel 4 upped the standards of coverage and analysis quite markedly when they took over the broadcasting rights.

I fully agree highlights are an extremely poor substitute and only just better than a quick update at the end of the day, but it would give some recognition of the main protagonists at least, something you said you lacked.

While there's no comparison with test cricket, the longer form 50 overs game is slightly better and can be far more tactical than the hitting fest of T20. However I find no real connection between test highlights and either really, other than highlights are just what it says, the high points of the day condensed into an hour long program, but that's extremely loose indeed imo.
I understand whete you're coming from. However, I'd happily choose the old style bbc coverage over advert infested coverage any day. The analysis I can take or leave (except in football / rugby in which case I'll leave it all day long.)

The panacea was bbc cricket all day with TMS on the radio - Johnners, Blowers, and by god how I miss John Arlott's voice.

Wouldn't work with digital today because of the time lag. Certainly not progress.
 

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