barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
Keep saying it.
The less they say, the less pressure.
The less they say, the less pressure.

German reaction to today's game:
Sport.de: http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fus_international/fussball_international_premierleague/artikel_818398.html
"Ozil strike not enough for Arsenal"
Kicker.de:
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/intligen/startseite/596175/artikel_remis-im-topspiel_oezils-treffer-reicht-arsenal-nicht.html
"Draw in a big game: Ozil strike is not enough for Arsenal"
So yeah, same as
That's just cos he's German though. The papers here always focus on the Dutch players when covering foreign matches, even Jonny still gets a regular mention when it's one of our matches.
I like Robbie Earle on the NBC coverage, think he's as in love with Martinez as we are.
I couldn't care less about what the media say.
Exactly! Some ******** in an office writing behind the papers agenda! Ignore all of that crap. What RM say's counts that's it!
It is more important than that.
I have lived down south for 20 years and have watched SKY and the media influence young kids and adults alike into supporting the sky6 (was 5 until city came along). Those of you who say you don't care are forgetting that those young fans will be putting money into the sky 6 teams coffers for the rest of their lives.
Everton cannot continue to exist on the Merseyside catchment and the fans from the 80s and 70s.
The less positive exposure we get the less fans we get. Liverpoo are crap yet still get loads of exposure and it feeds their massive fan base. While we have been arguably the 7th best team in the last decade, due to the lack of interest in the media we have not grown anywhere near as much as the rest.
Whatever happens to UTD over the next few years they will continue to get more coverage than us.
It's easy to play the "I don't care" card but in reality - we should.
It is more important than that.
I have lived down south for 20 years and have watched SKY and the media influence young kids and adults alike into supporting the sky6 (was 5 until city came along). Those of you who say you don't care are forgetting that those young fans will be putting money into the sky 6 teams coffers for the rest of their lives.
Everton cannot continue to exist on the Merseyside catchment and the fans from the 80s and 70s.
The less positive exposure we get the less fans we get. Liverpoo are crap yet still get loads of exposure and it feeds their massive fan base. While we have been arguably the 7th best team in the last decade, due to the lack of interest in the media we have not grown anywhere near as much as the rest.
Whatever happens to UTD over the next few years they will continue to get more coverage than us.
It's easy to play the "I don't care" card but in reality - we should.
[Everton] come through this week with their reputation further enhanced...
There seems to be kind of a changing of the guard in the Premier League, and Everton are stepping up and Manchester United are... bit of a shambles
You make some excellent points, especially with the way the Premier League has been promoted in modern times.It is more important than that.
I have lived down south for 20 years and have watched SKY and the media influence young kids and adults alike into supporting the sky6 (was 5 until city came along). Those of you who say you don't care are forgetting that those young fans will be putting money into the sky 6 teams coffers for the rest of their lives.
Everton cannot continue to exist on the Merseyside catchment and the fans from the 80s and 70s.
The less positive exposure we get the less fans we get. Liverpoo are crap yet still get loads of exposure and it feeds their massive fan base. While we have been arguably the 7th best team in the last decade, due to the lack of interest in the media we have not grown anywhere near as much as the rest.
It's easy to play the "I don't care" card but in reality - we should.

You make some excellent points, especially with the way the Premier League has been promoted in modern times.
I fell in love with the Blue boys in the early 80's when I was growing up in an area which has never known top-flight football (deepest, sleepiest Devon in case anyone's interested). Even then I remember the meeja hyping up Spurs supposed credentials compared to EFC but I watched and I witnessed the most sublime football played by any team I had ever seen. That 80's team was pure poetry and they scored for fun. And then they got shafted by events o/s their control and it broke my heart.
Like many on here I've stuck with the team through thick and thin and I've seen countless other teams come and go. But it still rankles with me when I read other footy forums and they talk how about well our players or our manager would do at a big club. We ARE a big club, it's just we are so much the poor unfashionable relations that it's unreal. I work with far too many young lads who have drunk the SKY4/5 (or even worse, the RS) kool-aid and bought into the BS. We need to be winning these types over by the quality of our football, the magnificence of our club and the passion of our support.
I really think with Martinez and this current crop of players we can. And I honestly believe that what we've seen this week has been the start of a lot of pundits (and real people!) starting to be charmed by our manager, our performances and our long-standing pedigree.
I may just be projecting from my own perspective, but I know that when I fell I in love with EFC it would be forever. So I may be immune to / amused by media bias but I'd still like to see it tail off in the face of actual footballing talent rather than hype, money, controversial players, overseas fan bases etc etc...
Just my considered and slightly less-flippant two'pennethworth than from earlier....![]()