Corruption in premier League

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Jusy perhaps Leicester was a scripted drama to "prove" it wasn't all about the big brands. Maybe it went too far and they were never really meant to win it but got confidence and momentum. Either way ... Will it happen again? No need - sky have proved its not a script!

You sound like you just wait for something to happen and decide its scripted. Did they script last season to go to the final day ? Will they do the same this season.? How about Everton, how’s our script looking for this season- scripted entertaining relegation fight or will Villa takes our place?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It's not scripted but rather a case of a small number of clubs having vastly more money than everyone else. There isn't a major league in Europe now where you know full well that the winner is going to be one of, at most, a couple of clubs. Whether we like it or now, the Super League is already pretty much here as domestic competitions aren't competitions for the likes of City, PSG, Bayern, and Barca/Real.

 

[paultheblue]

I hope the Super League happens and the Sky Six disappear from our league.

I totally agree let them go but if they do decide to go tell them there is no way back unless they want to come back at the very bottom tier.
That would leave us with a more streamlined premier league with a lot less money coming in but a far more competitive league .
League football was played for over a 100 years before Sky sports came along and it would survive again.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

I totally agree let them go but if they do decide to go tell them there is no way back unless they want to come back at the very bottom tier.
That would leave us with a more streamlined premier league with a lot less money coming in but a far more competitive league .
League football was played for over a 100 years before Sky sports came along and it would survive again.

I sometimes think this but I’d think I’d rather we were amongst the top tier teams again, as playing the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth just isn’t the same as the derby, Utd, City etc.

 

[paultheblue]

I sometimes think this but I’d think I’d rather we were amongst the top tier teams again, as playing the likes of Brighton and Bournemouth just isn’t the same as the derby, Utd, City etc.

That would become the new normal and to be honest as long as the league is competative what does it matter what the names of the teams are?
Also I would not be bothered if we never played a derby again.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

That would become the new normal and to be honest as long as the league is competative what does it matter what the names of the teams are?
Also I would not be bothered if we never played a derby again.

It does matter though. The crowd is well up for a big name team, as opposed to the ones I’ve mentioned. Virtually all the most boring, dull atmosphere’s occurs when those type of team come to Goodison (same with all other grounds).

 

[chrismpw]

You sound like you just wait for something to happen and decide its scripted. Did they script last season to go to the final day ? Will they do the same this season.? How about Everton, how’s our script looking for this season- scripted entertaining relegation fight or will Villa takes our place?

I would say "you sound like" you make assumptions about people from a few lines of text they've written, but I wouldn't want to say that about you with so little a dose if evidence of this thread.

I'll say that I've simply seen plenty of predictable events since so much sky money entered the game and I know how big they are on marketing to the armchair. Also how stale and stagnant the game has become because of the disparity of wealth - so they have to create, fabricate some drama. Im not suggesting there's any particular bias against Everton any more than there is against any of the other cannon fodder clubs. We're just there to make up the number if games to sell.

There are a lot of very well paid people and pundits in the media with a vested interest in not letting slip but just going along with the pantomime.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Itd be a bit strange and unlikely to, say, not involve Real and Barca is a scripted La Liga (and wouldn’t happen). City winning it four out of five (while I’m made up with it as are most Blues) has hardly been great for the league. Any chance of another ”scripted” Leicester any time soon?

Also Everton we’re given 7 penalties last season, more than most teams including g some of the big six and only one less than the RS, despite having one of the most inept attacks in the country and spending hardly any time in the opponent’s box, so at least that bit of the script helped.

An anomalie ,as in Leicester winning, could be argued, is good for the product.

 

[perth_blue]

Let them dickheads go and have their super conference.

Regardless, a salary cap or equivalent needs to be introduced otherwise you'll eventually have the same problems we see now and have seen through the years.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

An anomalie ,as in Leicester winning, could be argued, is good for the product.

I agree, that’s my point… surely it will happen again soon then if that was scripted? As it’s been seven years this season.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

I agree, that’s my point… surely it will happen again soon then if that was scripted? As it’s been seven years this season.

It did ..the rs won the covid one....

 

[Saint Domingo]

It has to be. There’s been cheating in every single sport that has a fraction of the wealth football has. Cycling, swimming, rugby, boxing, figure skating, tennis, literally any sport you can name has their scandal, apart from one, which just so happens to be the richest sport in the world by a long long way.

Now either this sport is being played and governed by absolute saints who never dope and never match fix, or there’s just so much money on the line that no one dares expose it. I wonder which one it is.

The only way to save the sport now is the super league. I wish it had worked and that lot had got off when they wanted to. No one would be interested in that competition and the domestic leagues across Europe would be absolutely revitalised with competition.

Salary caps, academy draft picks, CL revenue distributed evenly down the football pyramid. Referees miced up, VAR audible to viewers, international referees rotated around different leagues. These are some of the methods that could be taken to ensure fair competition and a level playing field.

Instead we have a situation where top clubs, with unlimited budgets, probably doped beyond their eyeballs, are playing teams that have financial constraints all over them with every player wishing they played for the opposition so they could be paid ten times more, winning fixtures easily the majority of times, and the few times they might be in a bit of trouble then the ref can fix the outcome for them anyway.

It’s a sick game now and our only hope is that it eats itself.

The Madrid president keeps going on about the popularity of US sports because they have more top level competitive games. The answer to that isn’t a super league for football, it’s increasing the competition of all the national leagues (the very thing that made football the richest game in the world in the first place). People are switching off because they know that Palace Fulham and now even Everton will never win the PL again. In fact they may never win away at a top 6 ground ever again. Meanwhile in American football the worst team in the league can draft the next Tom Brady and have a chance at the Super Bowl in the near future. That’s what brings punters in genuine competition, not this fake charade football had become.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

I would say "you sound like" you make assumptions about people from a few lines of text they've written, but I wouldn't want to say that about you with so little a dose if evidence of this thread.

I'll say that I've simply seen plenty of predictable events since so much sky money entered the game and I know how big they are on marketing to the armchair. Also how stale and stagnant the game has become because of the disparity of wealth - so they have to create, fabricate some drama. Im not suggesting there's any particular bias against Everton any more than there is against any of the other cannon fodder clubs. We're just there to make up the number if games to sell.

There are a lot of very well paid people and pundits in the media with a vested interest in not letting slip but just going along with the pantomime.

Well I can’t disagree with paragraphs 2 and 3 but in terms of paragraph 1, be honest have I really made the wrong assumption? You’ve shown your hand enough already in this thread.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

It has to be. There’s been cheating in every single sport that has a fraction of the wealth football has. Cycling, swimming, rugby, boxing, figure skating, tennis, literally any sport you can name has their scandal, apart from one, which just so happens to be the richest sport in the world by a long long way.

Now either this sport is being played and governed by absolute saints who never dope and never match fix, or there’s just so much money on the line that no one dares expose it. I wonder which one it is.

The only way to save the sport now is the super league. I wish it had worked and that lot had got off when they wanted to. No one would be interested in that competition and the domestic leagues across Europe would be absolutely revitalised with competition.

Salary caps, academy draft picks, CL revenue distributed evenly down the football pyramid. Referees miced up, VAR audible to viewers, international referees rotated around different leagues. These are some of the methods that could be taken to ensure fair competition and a level playing field.

Instead we have a situation where top clubs, with unlimited budgets, probably doped beyond their eyeballs, are playing teams that have financial constraints all over them with every player wishing they played for the opposition so they could be paid ten times more, winning fixtures easily the majority of times, and the few times they might be in a bit of trouble then the ref can fix the outcome for them anyway.

It’s a sick game now and our only hope is that it eats itself.

The Madrid president keeps going on about the popularity of US sports because they have more top level competitive games. The answer to that isn’t a super league for football, it’s increasing the competition of all the national leagues (the very thing that made football the richest game in the world in the first place). People are switching off because they know that Palace Fulham and now even Everton will never win the PL again. In fact they may never win away at a top 6 ground ever again. Meanwhile in American football the worst team in the league can draft the next Tom Brady and have a chance at the Super Bowl in the near future. That’s what brings punters in genuine competition, not this fake charade football had become.

Good post, especially the doping, but any idea that it’s just the RS that are on the funny Lucozade, isnt likely. Its either a thing among top teams or it isn’t, but it’s nothing new, I still have an issue of World Soccer from 1994 which talks about how much gear is in the modern game and the powers that be turn a blind eye.

 

[paultheblue]

It does matter though. The crowd is well up for a big name team, as opposed to the ones I’ve mentioned. Virtually all the most boring, dull atmosphere’s occurs when those type of team come to Goodison (same with all other grounds).

I know what your saying but what I mean is that there would over time become new big games as the league develops.
Since I have been watching football City, United , Spurs and Chelsea have all been relegated and the league has still survived without them.