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Connor mcloud
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She works in Alder Hey
Yeah i don't think there's anything wrong with airing concerns and I know that's what they're doing - it's fair enough.
However, I don't know if some will accept that counter-evidence when, or if, it comes... (as we've seen in the last few days). There's also no actual evidence that says it's definitely the wrong thing to do, even though I actually agree with the shouts that with the Pfizer one, it's better to err on the side of caution and go with the recommended spacing. So far, it appears to be working though.
As far as I’m aware there hasn’t been any trials of any of the vaccines in kids to date, not sure if they are some currently happening.
Do you know what vaccine she got, Pfizer or AZ?
It's the way they're doing it in the UK.
AZ - the evidence, which is now getting built up and expanded on more and more, is all there that 12 weeks spacing makes the vaccine more efficient than it would if the doses were spaced out over 3 or 6 weeks.
Pfizer - the manufacturers have warned to stick to 3 weeks spacing inbetween the doses as that's all that was tested. The UK have gone with 12 weeks in the hope of getting more protection to more people sooner. France and Denmark have also used this method, but are going with 6 weeks instead of 12. There is no definitive evidence that either of these approaches are wrong, there just isn't evidence to say they are correct either. However, there are now studies which have been completed and will be under peer-review in the coming days/weeks, which the evidence so far seems to show the Pfizer one doesn't actually kick-start any protection until around 15/16 days after the jab. By 21 days, the protection is up at 90%. This would suggest that longer spacing between the Pfizer doses isn't an issue but, and this is where there is a lot of fair argument against doing it, we just don't know for sure. Once these studies are peer-reviewed in full, there'll be more information. As it stands, it's basically unexplored territory.
Same with pregnant women too. Worried for when/if my sister, who has asthma pretty bad, will get hers. She's due in July, so I guess it will be after that, but really don't know.
Nobody to blame. You can't go testing vaccines on pregnant women.
tsubaki
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a bit of a risible post this - everyone on here wants vaccinations to work, the objection is to using them in a way that we do not know whether they'll work or not (and the possible impact this will have on a million very vulnerable people)
I’ve read Israel intend to give it 16 - 18 yr olds ?
They seem to be the willing guinea pigs for the rest of the world.
A while back I posted an article by an obstetrician, who herself was pregnant, about the things she had considered before she decided on going ahead taking the vaccine, will try and find it.
Think this is the advice in the US
Wondering about COVID-19 vaccines if you're pregnant or considering pregnancy? - Harvard Health
If you are pregnant or are thinking about becoming pregnant, you may have questions about getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Get informed by consulting trusted health sources, and talking with your medica...
www.health.harvard.edu
@DrEFC any idea of what UK recommendations are?
Edit found the one I posted, had recalled it as being more detailed than this though, perhaps I read another that I didn’t post or just am going mad!
'You're not alone': Pregnant doctor's advice to other moms about taking COVID-19 vaccine
"You're not alone. Nobody is making this decision lightly. So the best thing to do is talk with your trusted health care professional," Dr. Jacqueline Parchem said.
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roydo
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Well, some posters, with zero medical background, were pretty quick out of the blocks to pronounce to all and sundry that vaccine A was mouthwash, and vaccine B was a clear best one.
As the evidence mounts (see today re latest variant), I dont see much of a row back; I will leave it to to conclude what their position would be if indeed, their uninformed guess, was correct.
Yesterday, but;
Connor mcloud
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She got the Pfizer vaccine, so basically it’s trial and error then
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Hospital figures - 645 deaths were announced today, down 119 on yesterday and down 223 on last Friday. 537 deaths were in English hospitals, down 93 on yesterday and down 207 on last week. The 7 day rolling average falls to 702.43
All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 1014 deaths were announced today, up 99 on yesterday and down 231 on last Friday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 984.71
For the 60 day cut off, 1176 deaths were announced today, up 141 on yesterday and down 196 on last Friday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 1100.57
All settings - for the 28 day cut off, 1014 deaths were announced today, up 99 on yesterday and down 231 on last Friday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 984.71
For the 60 day cut off, 1176 deaths were announced today, up 141 on yesterday and down 196 on last Friday. The 7 day rolling average falls to 1100.57
roydo
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Somebody has to tbf.
But as I‘ve mentioned previously I’d just be a lot more comfortable with it ethics wise if if is done as part of a supervised trial with informed consent of the participants.
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