Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Sy-]

They are people who work outside of the country.

I’ve got two mates who work in “ high risk “ countries areas as specialist crane operators.

I also know another lad who works offshore on a gas platform in a “ high risk “ country.

The reason they are there, is because they get paid quadruple what they get paid here. Not because they want to be there.
Not everyone is on a jolly in Dubai.

Yeah, I edited my post a bit to say "travelers", at least with work it's expense-able.

My main concern is the likes of the Rita Oras sneaking off for a cheeky jolly.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Looks like Greece is preparing to open up to vaccinated pastie guzzlers and lager swillers in time for the Easter holidays.

Tzatziki Republic

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

shocking this:

Up to 100 UK children a week hospitalised with rare post-Covid disease

Exclusive: 75% of children worst affected by paediatric inflammatory multi-system syndrome are BAME

www.theguardian.com

Wonder how many caught COVID in School from their cohorts, and the backdrop to all this it's a balanced calculated risk, they just must appreciate and understand their sacrifice for the greater good of the economy. Hopefully this does not follow them into adulthood because worse to come from society if they don't fully recover.

 

[tsubaki]

I could just see you in a hospital bed, at the age of 66, having been told you are about to immediately die from whatever virus, when a Doctor runs in shouting he has a drug, fully proven, that will save your life. Obviously you then ask for proof that enough testing has been done on the over 65’s and that the appropriate paperwork has been submitted and peer reviewed by not only the MHRA and EMA, but each of the EU countries just in case.......there is no such thing as a risk free life...sometimes you just have to go with what the medical people tell you......

lol

some of the medical people were threatened that if they *followed* the guidance from Pfizer (and gave their patients the doses that had been arranged with them) that they’d get into trouble pete

So to correct your hypothetical scenario - you as a 66 year old are sat in hospital, waiting for the treatment that you and your doctor had agreed, you get given one half of it and then some wild-haired toff storms in and says “crikey chaps, there’s not enough to go around” and gives your second dose to a 65 year old.

He flounces off to spend more time with his dad (who did get two doses) and then two grim faced twiglet-men assure you that everything is going to be alright whilst putting duct tape around your doctors mouth, and mutter about tough choices.

No one is able to tell you, when you ask, whether or not you are actually protected, since they are too busy slapping themselves on the back and telling the local paper (whose proprietor had two doses) that the other treatment you could have had definitely works.

 

[xena]

Looks like Greece is preparing to open up to vaccinated pastie guzzlers and lager swillers in time for the Easter holidays.

I just need get vaccinated and im sorted.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Looks like Greece is preparing to open up to vaccinated pastie guzzlers and lager swillers in time for the Easter holidays.

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[xena]

Looks like Greece is preparing to open up to vaccinated pastie guzzlers and lager swillers in time for the Easter holidays.

Was joking with youngest son a couple of weeks ago about needing a vaccine to go away and he wasn't best pleased as he's well down the list. Don't think its right until everyone as access to a vaccine even if it means paying for one wene there's plenty of vaccine.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Was joking with youngest son a couple of weeks ago about needing a vaccine to go away and he wasn't best pleased as he's well down the list. Don't think its right until everyone as access to a vaccine even if it means paying for one wene there's plenty of vaccine.

Is it just the one dose or both?

Im due to go away end of August so should have had my 1st dose by then but doubt I'll have had both.

 

[BlueToff]

traditionally you are required to get evidence that a policy works before doing it; I appreciate that isn’t how our current Petri dish rulers do it

I know and understand that. But we're also in an unprecedented situation and there really is an urgency (in large part due to the crap decisions previously made I know) and they've based the decision on how previous vaccines for other illnesses have worked - and what is the best way to suppress the virus in the general population, which is get as many people a good proportion of protection as possible and then build it up that way.

There's no evidence so far of it not working either. In fact, the evidence now coming out - but yes it has to be reviewed which is happening - suggests that it could well be a good approach. We'll have to see.

 

[COYBL25]

Is it just the one dose or both?

Im due to go away end of August so should have had my 1st dose by then but doubt I'll have had both.

They haven’t said yet, but if it’s two doses, that means that the under 30’s may be prohibited from travelling.

I think the reality is that no one really knows, as it’s changing week by week with the vaccine roll out,

Last week the papers were gleefully announcing foreign holidays are off the cards this year and to stay at home.

Now they’re beginning to declare that foreign holidays are back on again.

What they seem to have forgotten, is tens of thousands of people have had last years foreign holiday carried over to this year too.

 

[BlueToff]

I hope that is our policy too:

"Documents suggest ministers expect more than 1,000 UK residents a day to return from places where new variants are prevalent"

Why are these people outside of the country? if they are not UK nationals, why are they trying to come here? entirely likely I am missing something obvious, but outside of initial repatriation I can't think of a single reason for people (travelers) to be crossing boarders since March 2020.

...so yeah, damn right they should pay themselves.

I think the example Moomin used was basically a person who lives in Aus having to travel back from Australia to the UK because their mother had a terminal illness and was basically on her last legs.

This person would then have to do the 2-week quarantine in Aus and pay for the entire thing by herself.

So that's the thing, you can't just judge because there's loads of possible scenarios.

Morally speaking, why shouldn't a person be able to go and see their own mother before they die?

 

[BlueToff]

They are people who work outside of the country.

I’ve got two mates who work in “ high risk “ countries areas as specialist crane operators.

I also know another lad who works offshore on a gas platform in a “ high risk “ country.

The reason they are there, is because they get paid quadruple what they get paid here. Not because they want to be there.

Not everyone is on a jolly in Dubai. People are there because their jobs demand them to be there.

Gas?

Who needs that. Unessential.

 

[xena]

Is it just the one dose or both?

Im due to go away end of August so should have had my 1st dose by then but doubt I'll have had both.

Not sure its the wife that mentioned it earlier would think it's both could've all changed by then hopefully.

 

[BlueToff]

Surely, it should just be proof of vaccine or proof of negative test by the summer?

That could easily be done for events too - outdoor ones with limited capacity.

No reason people shouldn't be able to go to the match in September, for example, even if it's 20,000 as opposed to 40,000.

Easy to do, just have the testing in place.

 

[COYBL25]

Surely, it should just be proof of vaccine or proof of negative test by the summer?

That could easily be done for events too - outdoor ones with limited capacity.

No reason people shouldn't be able to go to the match in September, for example, even if it's 20,000 as opposed to 40,000.

Easy to do, just have the testing in place.

Stand by for incoming any time soon on that one !