Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[jinkyali]

So had to go into hospital this morning. We were told I could go in to support my wife beforehand, but upon arrival, the security guard at the door said nope, no partners allowed. What's more, he said I'm not even allowed in the building and have to wait outside. The wife said that having spoken to staff that I could come up when they've done the scan. Obviously, the NHS being the NHS they were late with the appointment, so she had to sit in the waiting room re-living our visit from a fortnight ago when she was told (also alone) that she had miscarried for an hour, after which she was seen in the exact same room as before. The scan done (to confirm that yep, she really has miscarried rather than the foetus hiding or something), she calls me to say I can come up to sit in on the post-scan consultation.

Security guard was an arse again but get past him and there's a nurse on the door of the unit guarding the entrance. She says "no partners", and in a proper arsey way demands to know what I'm doing there, so I have to explain to her that my wife is inside being told we have definitely lost our baby and it'd be kinda nice if I could be there to support her. Another 30 minutes then waiting in the consultation room on our own before anyone sees us.

So all in all, any progress we'd made in actually coming to terms with this over the past 10 days has gone to [Poor language removed] because the hospital experience was so bloody in-humane. So if you fellas want to piss about, not wearing masks or ignoring social distancing, get-to-[Poor language removed].

Hi mate.
We had a miscarriage confirmed today too. Peace be with ya bro. X

 

[coollino]

So had to go into hospital this morning. We were told I could go in to support my wife beforehand, but upon arrival, the security guard at the door said nope, no partners allowed. What's more, he said I'm not even allowed in the building and have to wait outside. The wife said that having spoken to staff that I could come up when they've done the scan. Obviously, the NHS being the NHS they were late with the appointment, so she had to sit in the waiting room re-living our visit from a fortnight ago when she was told (also alone) that she had miscarried for an hour, after which she was seen in the exact same room as before. The scan done (to confirm that yep, she really has miscarried rather than the foetus hiding or something), she calls me to say I can come up to sit in on the post-scan consultation.

Security guard was an arse again but get past him and there's a nurse on the door of the unit guarding the entrance. She says "no partners", and in a proper arsey way demands to know what I'm doing there, so I have to explain to her that my wife is inside being told we have definitely lost our baby and it'd be kinda nice if I could be there to support her. Another 30 minutes then waiting in the consultation room on our own before anyone sees us.

So all in all, any progress we'd made in actually coming to terms with this over the past 10 days has gone to [Poor language removed] because the hospital experience was so bloody in-humane. So if you fellas want to piss about, not wearing masks or ignoring social distancing, get-to-[Poor language removed].

I'm sorry, that's awful.

We had two miscarriages before being successful the third time.

Not really the only thread for it so I won't go into too much detail but we waited slightly longer before trying for the third time.

Try stay strong, PM if you ever need to or can chat a bit more in the mental health thread.

 

[peteblue]

So had to go into hospital this morning. We were told I could go in to support my wife beforehand, but upon arrival, the security guard at the door said nope, no partners allowed. What's more, he said I'm not even allowed in the building and have to wait outside. The wife said that having spoken to staff that I could come up when they've done the scan. Obviously, the NHS being the NHS they were late with the appointment, so she had to sit in the waiting room re-living our visit from a fortnight ago when she was told (also alone) that she had miscarried for an hour, after which she was seen in the exact same room as before. The scan done (to confirm that yep, she really has miscarried rather than the foetus hiding or something), she calls me to say I can come up to sit in on the post-scan consultation.

Security guard was an arse again but get past him and there's a nurse on the door of the unit guarding the entrance. She says "no partners", and in a proper arsey way demands to know what I'm doing there, so I have to explain to her that my wife is inside being told we have definitely lost our baby and it'd be kinda nice if I could be there to support her. Another 30 minutes then waiting in the consultation room on our own before anyone sees us.

So all in all, any progress we'd made in actually coming to terms with this over the past 10 days has gone to [Poor language removed] because the hospital experience was so bloody in-humane. So if you fellas want to piss about, not wearing masks or ignoring social distancing, get-to-[Poor language removed].

Bruce, desperately sorry to hear this. My wife and I went through this many years ago and I know the feeling and hurt but without the Covid restrictions you both had to suffer. The only thing I can add is that afterwards we had four very healthy children. Sometimes these things happen for a reason, that’s all we kept telling ourselves. I hope your wife and yourself find a way to rationalise this and build a family in the years to come. Pete....

 

[Sinski]

So had to go into hospital this morning. We were told I could go in to support my wife beforehand, but upon arrival, the security guard at the door said nope, no partners allowed. What's more, he said I'm not even allowed in the building and have to wait outside. The wife said that having spoken to staff that I could come up when they've done the scan. Obviously, the NHS being the NHS they were late with the appointment, so she had to sit in the waiting room re-living our visit from a fortnight ago when she was told (also alone) that she had miscarried for an hour, after which she was seen in the exact same room as before. The scan done (to confirm that yep, she really has miscarried rather than the foetus hiding or something), she calls me to say I can come up to sit in on the post-scan consultation.

Security guard was an arse again but get past him and there's a nurse on the door of the unit guarding the entrance. She says "no partners", and in a proper arsey way demands to know what I'm doing there, so I have to explain to her that my wife is inside being told we have definitely lost our baby and it'd be kinda nice if I could be there to support her. Another 30 minutes then waiting in the consultation room on our own before anyone sees us.

So all in all, any progress we'd made in actually coming to terms with this over the past 10 days has gone to [Poor language removed] because the hospital experience was so bloody in-humane. So if you fellas want to piss about, not wearing masks or ignoring social distancing, get-to-[Poor language removed].

Sorry to hear mate. We went through a miscarriage in between our 2 kids a few years ago. Horrible experience to go through and was glad to be be able to support my wife though so I imagine not being able to go in is super tough.

 

[Jebus_lives]

SARS-CoV-2 sequencing reveals rapid transmission from college student clusters resulting in morbidity and deaths in vulnerable populations

College reopening decisions during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic represent a trade-off between competing risks to students, faculty and staff, and college finances. Additionally, risks taken in reopening colleges can impose significant burdens on individuals living in surrounding communities. Many...

www.medrxiv.org

"Make sure you keep students on campus and protect the vulnerable; it's the best way to reduce infection"

 

[Bluerover]

So.

Wales going for a hard on 2 week lock down.

NI trump that with a 6 week one.

NE and Yorkshire all goosed. Tier 3, (not entirely sure what that means, pubs closed basically as far as I can tell. That will show it)

Burnham playing all big balls in Manchester. Hey, Andy, folk will die mate.

Our shoe shop has to be closed cos a staff member got a positive.

World is cocking mad.

Maybe this will help as regards the 5 Level system in the Republic. We are back on Level 5 from Midnight tomprr Wednesday

Everything you need to know: The full lockdown rules, exceptions and definitions of ‘essential work/travel’

m.independent.ie

 

[Goat]

So had to go into hospital this morning. We were told I could go in to support my wife beforehand, but upon arrival, the security guard at the door said nope, no partners allowed. What's more, he said I'm not even allowed in the building and have to wait outside. The wife said that having spoken to staff that I could come up when they've done the scan. Obviously, the NHS being the NHS they were late with the appointment, so she had to sit in the waiting room re-living our visit from a fortnight ago when she was told (also alone) that she had miscarried for an hour, after which she was seen in the exact same room as before. The scan done (to confirm that yep, she really has miscarried rather than the foetus hiding or something), she calls me to say I can come up to sit in on the post-scan consultation.

Security guard was an arse again but get past him and there's a nurse on the door of the unit guarding the entrance. She says "no partners", and in a proper arsey way demands to know what I'm doing there, so I have to explain to her that my wife is inside being told we have definitely lost our baby and it'd be kinda nice if I could be there to support her. Another 30 minutes then waiting in the consultation room on our own before anyone sees us.

So all in all, any progress we'd made in actually coming to terms with this over the past 10 days has gone to [Poor language removed] because the hospital experience was so bloody in-humane. So if you fellas want to piss about, not wearing masks or ignoring social distancing, get-to-[Poor language removed].

Really sorry to hear this Bruce, hope things work out for you.

xxx

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Sorry to hear that Bruce hope you and the misses are ok.
This virus brings the worst out of some people who seem to lose all sense of human compassion

Really sorry to hear that. I hope both of you feel much better in coming days. Some terrible people out there, cannot think or feel properly.

Suffice to say the pandemic has put a lot of people under a whole lot of strain and so I don't wish to be too critical, but we've obviously had quite a few engagements with baby-related authorities this year, and it's been noticeable how they don't appear to give a stuff about the father. My wife is a health visitor and she's been told when they restarted home visits that they can only speak to one adult, so basically they have to go into someone's home and ask the father to leave the room. Whether it's abortions, midwifery, pregnancy, antenatal, or it seems health visiting, the dad is almost in the way and given very little say or involvement at all. So while I'm willing to forgive COVID-stresses, that seems a far more systemic issue to me, and it's all kinds of wrong.

Hi mate.
We had a miscarriage confirmed today too. Peace be with ya bro. X

I'm sorry, that's awful.

We had two miscarriages before being successful the third time.

Not really the only thread for it so I won't go into too much detail but we waited slightly longer before trying for the third time.

Try stay strong, PM if you ever need to or can chat a bit more in the mental health thread.

Sorry to hear mate. We went through a miscarriage in between our 2 kids a few years ago. Horrible experience to go through and was glad to be be able to support my wife though so I imagine not being able to go in is super tough.

Y'know, it's mad fellas, as you don't realise just how many people go through this. Turns out last week was actually Baby Loss Awareness Week (https://babyloss-awareness.org/) and something like 1 in 4 pregnancies don't make it, which is around 250,000 a year. We're in our early 40s now so the odds are kinda stacked against us. At the moment it's hard to imagine rolling the dice another time to be honest.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Back on some kind of topic.

Medium-term impact of COVID-19 revealed in new study | University of Oxford

Initial findings from a study looking at the longer-term impact of COVID-19 has found that a large proportion COVID-19 patients discharged from hospital were still experiencing symptoms of breathlessness, fatigue, anxiety and depression two to three months after contracting the virus.

www.ox.ac.uk

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Better late than never I suppose...

Covid-19: First UK airport coronavirus testing begins

The aim is to help people travelling to destinations where a negative result is required on arrival.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Brennan]

Better late than never I suppose...

Covid-19: First UK airport coronavirus testing begins

The aim is to help people travelling to destinations where a negative result is required on arrival.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bruce Wayne]

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I don't really get the delay to be honest. I spoke probably 6-8 weeks ago about a company that had developed a pretty reliable breathalyzer style technology to test for COVID. It's not designed to be failsafe, ie to replace actual testing, but to allow rapid screening that is robust enough to allow things like travel to occur with a reasonable degree of safety. Yet despite this being available, we still seem only able to use either "everyone can travel" or "everyone can't travel". It's a very blunt approach.

Reading about the Rooney situation, for instance, reminded me of how Sweden appear to do things. There, they do the self-isolation thing too, but they seem to test those who are self-isolating after a few days, and if the test comes back negative then they are released. Here, Rooney gets a negative test and still has to isolate. Given the techno-bullshit Cummings likes to spout, we don't seem in any way "world beating" in all of this.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

What shops can stay open in Ireland?

• Retailers with mixed retail offering which have discrete spaces for essential and non-essential retail should make arrangements for the separation of relevant areas.
• Outlets selling food or beverages on a takeaway basis, or newspapers, whether on a retail or wholesale basis and whether in a non-specialised or specialised outlet.
• Markets that, wholly or principally, offer food for sale.
• Outlets selling products necessary for the essential upkeep and functioning of places of residence and businesses, whether on a retail or wholesale basis.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Again. Why should Devon and Cornwall close down because of Liverpool or Manchester......any kind of logical answer will do.....

Because its about reducing the need for acute beds, not just for this virus but other illnesses and incidents that require this kind of medical management. And we as a country have pursued an economic agenda that has centralized our NHS hospital care to pool resources, its a logical step, in the small state agenda.

I'm fit a and healthy and under danger age, so its likely to be an incident of the accident kind that would most likely put me hospital in need of a acute bed.

Its common for people from rural Montgomeryshire like myself to end up in Shrewsbury Liverpool Wolverhampton or Stoke, just dont think its right to continue my life as normal in a low transmission area as there is a risk in everything we do, and its only right I reduce those risks as much as possible to help others, who will need those beds because somehow they have caught this virus or gone and had heart attack or stroke, so yep lockdown...

 

[Barnfred 55]

So had to go into hospital this morning. We were told I could go in to support my wife beforehand, but upon arrival, the security guard at the door said nope, no partners allowed. What's more, he said I'm not even allowed in the building and have to wait outside. The wife said that having spoken to staff that I could come up when they've done the scan. Obviously, the NHS being the NHS they were late with the appointment, so she had to sit in the waiting room re-living our visit from a fortnight ago when she was told (also alone) that she had miscarried for an hour, after which she was seen in the exact same room as before. The scan done (to confirm that yep, she really has miscarried rather than the foetus hiding or something), she calls me to say I can come up to sit in on the post-scan consultation.

Security guard was an arse again but get past him and there's a nurse on the door of the unit guarding the entrance. She says "no partners", and in a proper arsey way demands to know what I'm doing there, so I have to explain to her that my wife is inside being told we have definitely lost our baby and it'd be kinda nice if I could be there to support her. Another 30 minutes then waiting in the consultation room on our own before anyone sees us.

So all in all, any progress we'd made in actually coming to terms with this over the past 10 days has gone to [Poor language removed] because the hospital experience was so bloody in-humane. So if you fellas want to piss about, not wearing masks or ignoring social distancing, get-to-[Poor language removed].

I've not been spending much time in here of late so this is news to me. So sorry for your loss Bruce and my thoughts are with you both