Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Selfie deaths: 259 people reported dead seeking the perfect picture in 2018.

Worth remembering.

 

[tsubaki]

Exactly.

The point is though, given that the roads are statistically far more dangerous than this virus, nobody panics about using our roads. Yet, people, led by the clueless cretins in the media, are being driven into full on panic mode over this virus which is very dangerous.

Not many people panic, but the amount of social engineering that was required to get people to accept the idea of car traffic and ownership - with its attendant dangers, costs, damage to the countryside and negative effect on everyone - is arguably more than what is happening now, but obviously its taken place over years rather than weeks.

Take deprecation for example - why is it that a new car losing 20%-40% of its value in a year is just accepted? If your kid was burning £100 a week people would at least stop giving it matches.

 

[Sentinel]

The audacity.

Thankfully, the government will tell Branson to swivel on it.

Living in a world of self-entitlement must be grand. Audacity is the right word. While the vast majority of people eek out a living from paycheck to paycheck in the minds of people like Branson, their world should remain untouched.

Businesses fail, it's called capitalism. If you don't like the rules don't enter the marketplace. If you haven't noticed billions of people live and die by these laws everyday. Which enabled entrepreneurs like Branson got very rich in the first place.

You can't change the rules now. They were bailed out once before, it would be madness to do it again. Let the market correct.

 

[Yank]

Exactly.

The point is though, given that the roads are statistically far more dangerous than this virus, nobody panics about using our roads. Yet, people, led by the clueless cretins in the media, are being driven into full on panic mode over this virus which is very dangerous.

I mean your point is so wrong on so many acccounts.

1) not saying it will be anywhere near that figure, however, car accidents aren't just a new thing popping up. They don't have a season. They are spread out across the year. A reason for taking precautions is to ease the burden on health care workers, the system, and resources.

2) Injuries from car accidents aren't new. This is. They are still in the process of figuring out how to most efficiently diagnose, let alone treat the virus. Car accidents injuries are pretty clear for the most part. This has become routine because of how common it is.

3) 27,000 serious injuries is pretty vague. I'm guessing you took that off a government website. They would stress serious injuries on a government website for public safety and to stress public awareness on the roads. On one hand, I doubt all of those were really serious. Since you think the government and media is over exaggerating coronavirus, surely you could agree on that? I imagine a broken leg or arm, injuries keeping people out of work, a concussion, multiple types of injuries could be considered serious that are not life threatening to all.

4) Those car accidents are still happening and this just adds to the burden of the healthcare system. They aren't independent. Other areas will suffed because of an influx of a new illness.

Finally, unfortunately some of that figure includes people who died at the accident.

Your point is completely wrong and irrelevant.

 

[Billy Dean]

Depends how thorough you want to be.

If you want to be safe just throw away the external packaging and wash your hands. In the unlikely event that somehow the virus got in prior to being sealed it improbable it would be active.

Just do what you can. You are going to find it difficult to replicate a medical facility in your own home but just be organised.
Don't bring external items past a certain point. When getting changed or completing tasksv have a clean and an unclean hand etc.

I'm literally not going to do any of that personally, this could last weeks. Months.

By external items, do you mean things like footwear, jacket etc? What about jeans, jumper? Should I be having clothes I only wear indoors then a different set for outdoors, or is that too paranoid?

 

[Paris]

Selfie deaths: 259 people reported dead seeking the perfect picture in 2018.

Worth remembering.

Ah yes, the type of people who would be contenders for the Darwin Award.

Anyway, I bet you didn't know that the freshwater snail is responsible for more than 200,000 deaths a year.

 

[Paris]

I mean your point is so wrong on so many acccounts.

1) not saying it will be anywhere near that figure, however, car accidents aren't happening all at once. They are spread out. A reason for taking precautions is to ease the burden on health care workers, the system, and resources.

2) Injuries from car accidents aren't new. This is. They are still in the process of figuring out how to most efficiently diagnose, let alone treat the virus. Car accidents injuries are pretty clear for the most part. This has become routine because of how common it is.

3) 27,000 serious injuries is pretty bland. I'm guessing you took that off a government website. They would stress serious injuries on a government website for public safety and to stress public awareness on the roads. On one hand, I doubt all of those were really serious. Since you think the government and media is over exaggerating coronavirus, surely you could agree on that? I imagine a broken leg or arm, injuries keeping people out of work, a concussion, multiple types of injuries could be considered serious that are not life threatening to all.

Finally, unfortunately some of that figure includes people who died at the accident.

Your point is completely wrong and irrelevant.

It's not though is it, however, we've already gathered that you're a panicky 'kak your pants' sort. Whereas I'm the type of person who rides a motorbike in Thailand without a helmet despite the roads in Thailand being the most dangerous in the world.

 

[Sentinel]

I bet you didn't know that the freshwater snail is responsible for more than 200,000 deaths a year.

This silent slow moving assassin, tell me more.

 

[Yank]

It's not though is it, however, we've already gathered that you're a panicky 'kak your pants' sort.

So by actually not refuting anything I've said, you actually think you validated your point?

No you're wrong. You're just so wrong on so many levels in regards to the traffic statistic.

I got it though, you can't really refute anything I said so you jusy throw out some random [Poor language removed].

Why not quote figures on lung cancer. That would make more sense. I did your job for you.

Instead why don't you go look up injuries in sports, playgrounds, due to age, those will all be higher so we must focus on that.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

By external items, do you mean things like footwear, jacket etc? What about jeans, jumper? Should I be having clothes I only wear indoors then a different set for outdoors, or is that too paranoid?

Man I'm only a nurse and a mental health one at that but I've barrier nursed people in isolated environments so I'm going by that but I'm not an infection control specialist.

Put it like this, the info i said is unlikely for the most part something i will be doing myself. Partly because i don't share with a lot of people and i am mostly in my room which is fine. Secondly because this necessary period of infection control etc is likely to go on for some time. You have to be very organised, very disciplined, monitor everything that is coming and going from the environment.
Unless you are very good you are going to make mistakes and i would suggest a lot of people would become nonchalant after a few days unless there are people dying outside their door.
Basic kit?
Wear overalls and boots.facemask, gloves. Take them off in the hall and go straight to the shower.

 

[Prevenger17]

Reminds me a bit of having conversations with 2A nuts and trying to convince them that regulating the amount of guns they give out in their country might result in less people getting murdered by guns. The responses are usually one or a mix of the following:

1. "Are you going to ban cars now??!"
2. "London knife crime!"
3. "Freedom!"

I swear that historically unprecedented access to huge quantities information is now rendering people completely unable to deal with problems on their own merits

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Reminds me a bit of having conversations with 2A nuts and trying to convince them that regulating the amount of guns they give out in their country might result in less people getting murdered by guns. The responses are usually one or a mix of the following:

1. "Are you going to ban cars now??!"
2. "London knife crime!"
3. "Freedom!"

I swear that historically unprecedented access to huge quantities information is now rendering people completely unable to deal with problems on their own merits

4. Freshwater snails

 

[davek]

Health Minister Matt Hancock issues his latest battle plan to fight the virus....and places it on the paywalled Telegraph site.

If there was a microcosm of all that's bolloxed up about this irresponsible and murderous Tory regime it has to be in that act.

 

[Yank]

Not many people panic, but the amount of social engineering that was required to get people to accept the idea of car traffic and ownership - with its attendant dangers, costs, damage to the countryside and negative effect on everyone - is arguably more than what is happening now, but obviously its taken place over years rather than weeks.

Take deprecation for example - why is it that a new car losing 20%-40% of its value in a year is just accepted? If your kid was burning £100 a week people would at least stop giving it matches.

What in the hell? Why are we talking about this because some bitter jamoke cited some irrelevant statistic?

 

[Prevenger17]

4. Freshwater snails

Did you ever interact with @Barry Rathbone on here? He was a mad climate change denier, got all his information from some randomer's webpage called wattsupwiththat.com, and would generally respond to every dissection of his deranged arguments with references to predictions made by Noel Edmonds 10 or 20 years ago. I'm not even making this up