Confirmed Signing Cenk Tosun

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Saint Domingo said:
Tosun hasn’t kicked a ball yet. Yes Liverpool have recruited better than us recently but it wasn’t that long ago they were wasting money and we had the savvy recruitment. All that’s happened is Koeman was rubbish with money and Klopp is buying well. There’s no indicator that Allardyce will be as poor a judge of player as Koeman yet.

Koeman begged the board for Siggurdson whilst Klaassen was clearly his buy. Walsh is on a knife edge currently but we don’t know how much influence he had.
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Don't think it is that simple.

Liverpool replaced Rodgers with Klopp - keeping the same style but getting someone who could coach it better.
They have targeted and signed players specifically to play within that system
They have replaced the old boys / agent driven recruitment with a top quality analytics team
Players are recruited to keep for their peak years and sell at top value.

We've gone from Martinez - Koeman - Allardyce all of whom play vastly different styles and have different ideas on player needs.
We've got a bloated squad with so many players who don't fit into our style of play
We replaced our analytics team (regarded as the best in the business) with 60 something scouts and a bog standard database used by everyone else.
Players are being bought at peak value and then sold on at a loss.

Hate to praise them and attack us but needs to be said.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Tosun hasn’t kicked a ball yet. Yes Liverpool have recruited better than us recently but it wasn’t that long ago they were wasting money and we had the savvy recruitment. All that’s happened is Koeman was rubbish with money and Klopp is buying well. There’s no indicator that Allardyce will be as poor a judge of player as Koeman yet.

Koeman begged the board for Siggurdson whilst Klaassen was clearly his buy. Walsh is on a knife edge currently but we don’t know how much influence he had.
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I read a Turkish fan describe him as someone without much natural ability but he works hard. Fair enough, he might do really well for us but I doubt he's going to be that gem we've unearthed that can take us to the next level.
 



The negotiations between the two clubs have been ongoing for several weeks and the two parties met in London on Wednesday, agreeing a deal which will see the 26-year-old join the Premier League side for £27m.

“Our interests and the players interests are important,” Fikret Orman said. “Cenk wants to join Everton. We want to do our part and we are working on a replacement.

“The era of buy, buy, buy is over. This is the era of buy, add value and sell. A final deal has not been reached yet but we have an agreement over the price. The end is near. The transfer will be wrapped up by the weekend.”
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OnlyBlueWillDo said:
The lad can slot, get behind him and give him a chance to settle in.

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We'll give him plenty of support, for around about 60 minutes !
 
Unfortunately, he is nowhere near good enough for our league and has been outperformed by Kone in Turkey, which should have set all manner of alarm bells ringing.

Another huge overpayment by Walsh, too.

“The era of buy, buy, buy is over. This is the era of buy, add value and sell".
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.... apart from under Steve Walsh
 

orly said:
Unfortunately, he is nowhere near good enough for our league and has been outperformed by Kone in Turkey, which should have set all manner of alarm bells ringing.

Another huge overpayment by Walsh, too.




.... apart from under Steve Walsh
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it is rather alarming that Kone is doing just as well in Turkey.
 
BlueToff said:
I think the defence looked settled and more importantly good prior to the festive period.

Williams and Holgate complimented each other well, with each possessing the qualities the other lacks.

Kenny was playing superbly and in terms of style of play, is pretty much Coleman lite, which means when Coleman does come back it won't be a totally different style of player coming back in.

Martina, ultimately, has performed his defensive duties well. it'd be incredibly harsh to say otherwise. But the guy is so limited going forward that it causes us issues at both ends of the pitch and a left-back is a must.

Anybody expecting someone like Tierney is unfortunately pushing it too far I think. Lad's on a 6 year deal and doesn't want to leave Celtic, and Celtic won't sell their poster boy (which he is) in the middle of the season to what is essentially a mid-table club as it stands.

There's a few options that I can thin of but we have to hope Walsh has actually done his job and come up with a list of targets.

What baffles me about the LB situation is we targeted Kolasinac at the start of the summer. No issues with him going to Arsenal, but it's clear we wanted a LB so why we never got one is infuriating and in all fairness to Koeman, he did say many times he wanted a player for that role.

- Blind (out of contract in the summer, may be worth a shot. Can also cover CB and DM if needed)
- Bryan (really impressive for Bristol City, but it's a big step up. If he gets a knock like Byram did at West Ham...)
- Chilwell (would be my long-term target but I don't think Leicester would sell to us for anything less than £30m, and I think he might be holding out for a bigger move as well)
- Shaw (meh, he'd definitely solve the issue we have there but I'm not convinced)

If we're looking abroad, then one of the best who would almost certainly be getable at a decent fee would be Marvin Plattenhardt, from Hertha.

Plays a lot like Baines in his prime. Pretty quick and always looks to get forward, and has a great cross on him.
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They may not want to sell Tierney mate, but this is a club who sold McGeqady when they recieved the first really big offer on him, another player home-grown who was as popular as Tierney is with fans. In fact i can't recall Celtic ever turning down what would be for them a large bid at the time - Wanyama -13m? VVD -12m? and so on, always with add-ons and very rarely it requires the buying club to be an elite level one, if ever in fact.

Scale that kind of fee up the way the market has gone, and you'd get them wanting to sell for anything north of 30m+, would the player want to move would be another matter, but higher profile league, testing himself against the best rather than part time farmers, and the small matter of him probably going form 15k pw to 100k pw
 

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