Christ the ammount of fans who are saying 'who cares if we never win a trophy again that's not what being an everton fan is about" depresses the hell out of me.
Pipe down glory hunter.

Christ the ammount of fans who are saying 'who cares if we never win a trophy again that's not what being an everton fan is about" depresses the hell out of me.
Pipe down glory hunter.
What's the point of being a fan if you don't want glory?
What, I should hope we lose instead?
You should have been. In 2010/11 we were in exactly the same spot in terms of games played and points won.At the start yes, but once he'd got his squad in place we generally finished at least in the middle
I certainly didn't worry about relegation during the end of his tenure
You should have been. In 2010/11 we were in exactly the same spot in terms of games played and points won.
So if you're worried now you had to have been then too?
Agreed. Just takes one big win and we have lift off.Anybody who either wasn't worried in 2010-11 pre jelavic and gibson or isn't worried now, is clinically insane.
Not because of relegation fears (we're not in serious danger of relegation now and we haven't been since smith was sacked) but because of how far we look from being competitive at the top.
It took new players and a dodgy win over city to give us the confidence boost we needed to turn it around and we suddenly went from looking like hopeless cloggers to sweeping teams aside by 3 or 4 goals. Hopefully we'll do something similar this time.
It's only if Martinez can't turn a corner that you worry. Like I keep saying he gets until next november. If no corner has been corned by then that's when you assume the manager isn't capable of it.
I'm still hopeful that the sea change will come this month, if I'm honest. We know that once this team clicks we're capable of racing up this table.
Damn World Cup yearsAnybody who either wasn't worried in 2010-11 pre jelavic and gibson or isn't worried now, is clinically insane.
Not because of relegation fears (we're not in serious danger of relegation now and we haven't been since smith was sacked) but because of how far we look from being competitive at the top.
It took new players and a dodgy win over city to give us the confidence boost we needed to turn it around and we suddenly went from looking like hopeless cloggers to sweeping teams aside by 3 or 4 goals. Hopefully we'll do something similar this time.
It's only if Martinez can't turn a corner that you worry. Like I keep saying he gets until next november. If no corner has been corned by then that's when you assume the manager isn't capable of it.
I'm still hopeful that the sea change will come this month, if I'm honest. We know that once this team clicks we're capable of racing up this table.
It's amazing how much things have changed in 12 months, last season felt like we were on the cusp of exciting times ahead, a bit like 1984, now it's looking more like the dark days of 1994. I'm not sure I can cope with the stress of another last game of the season relegation battle, my nerves couldn't take it again. It's looking a tad iffy at present though.
What's the point of being a fan if you don't want glory?
What, I should hope we lose instead?

Racist?? I think not
We could have 11 players playing for Sudan or Etheopia and say we've got a team of internationals,my point wasn't meant to be racist,if it offends you I apologise
I just think your being very dismissive of the teams from Africa Friend.
They are all rammed full of quality players.
Mwengwe Starbright LilongweWithout googling
Name me one Quality player from Niger?
Name me one quality player from Chad?
Name me on quality player from Somalia?
I know your struggling... so just name me ONE PLAYER from ANY of these countries
5th place is deemed a glorious season now by all accounts, Moyes years have apparently been viewed as glorious because he consistently got us into the top 8. What hope have we got if these are the expectation's the majority of fans have. In hindsight it was a very poor idea to start a thread like this I know it's just a moan but it does wonders for all the Negative reputations.
Someone posted we have 1 trophy in 28 years. Leicester City have more, Bolton have the same, god Middlesborough even match that. Forgive me comparing us to the teams I mentioned. Anyways I'm not bothered again.![]()