Boxing

Harryflashman said:
Even Freddie roach , and let’s face it look
At his reputation , said this about Ariza in an interview and I mean Freddie Roach !


“One of the reasons I don’t work with him [Ariza] anymore is he’s a little shady. He used to give Manny a drink before workouts, and I asked him what was in the drink and he would never tell me. I told him I need to know what was in the drinks because you’re giving it to my fighter.”
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anabolic cordial of course.
 

Walken said:
no chance he wasn't juicing during his peak welter days, may have come off it once ariza or whatever his name was left his camp, but I'd say it's fairly commonly accepted the pacman juiced
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When Freddie roach thinks somebody who works for one of his fighters is shady over PED’s then he must have had his gear all in visibly labelled bottles carried in shifts by Ben Johnson and lance Armstrong .
 
What’s funny about the Pacquiao situation is, once Mayweather started going on about random blood tests. His performances dropped and he looked beatable. One thing that stood out to me about Pacquiao, was he threw a 8 punch combination in about a second on Margarito. That’s ridiculous. Alex Ariza was well spiking him with something, he’s been caught doing dodgy stuff in the past.
 

Just coming back to fury here.

My feeling is that fury is a better fighter than AJ. Aj of course is a better athlete but at the same time his muscle will hold him back in some ways too (speed, stamina etc). A fully fit and mentally prepared fury beats AJ nine times out of 10 for me. He is a more clever boxer, and he has a better reach.

He will also take AJ somewhere he has never been before. If AJ tried to engage with Fury in an inside fight he will lose but if he tries to go the distance too then I think there will be problems for him there too as Fury goes right until the end. Fury can also switch it up when needed whereas Joshua is more one dimensional.

But the point I'm making is that a fully right Fury would beat AJ with relative ease in my opinion.
 
widnesblue said:
What’s funny about the Pacquiao situation is, once Mayweather started going on about random blood tests. His performances dropped and he looked beatable. One thing that stood out to me about Pacquiao, was he threw a 8 punch combination in about a second on Margarito. That’s ridiculous. Alex Ariza was well spiking him with something, he’s been caught doing dodgy stuff in the past.
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Isn't the record for a punch combo Khan with 6 punches in 1.2 seconds or something like that ?
 
widnesblue said:
What’s funny about the Pacquiao situation is, once Mayweather started going on about random blood tests. His performances dropped and he looked beatable. One thing that stood out to me about Pacquiao, was he threw a 8 punch combination in about a second on Margarito. That’s ridiculous. Alex Ariza was well spiking him with something, he’s been caught doing dodgy stuff in the past.
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He was an elite level pressure fighter who would beat a fighter pretty much every time. Indeed, he only ever really lost in his prime to a blind counter punch from Marquez and a dodgy decision.

However, I personally never thought for a minute he'd beat Mayweather, because an elite boxer beats an elite fighter every time. His fight with Mayweather went exactly as I thought it would - in that regard, Pacquiao always looked beatable.
 

Tubey said:
He was an elite level pressure fighter who would beat a fighter pretty much every time. Indeed, he only ever really lost in his prime to a blind counter punch from Marquez and a dodgy decision.

However, I personally never thought for a minute he'd beat Mayweather, because an elite boxer beats an elite fighter every time. His fight with Mayweather went exactly as I thought it would - in that regard, Pacquiao always looked beatable.
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Morales? Can't agree if that's the defeat you are talking about
 
Walken said:
margarito is a man who conflicts me, awful person who should have been convicted of assault or at the very least and potentially more who really disgraced the sport, but good lord, one of the toughest guys to ever walk the earth
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Really enjoyed his fighting style, but he will always have that doubt concerning him, regarding the hand wraps. He won me good money on the first fight against Cotto too. Always remember his first fight with Kermit Cintron too. Always in enjoyable fights whether he was winning or someone putting on a punch perfect performance against him.
 
Tubey said:
He was an elite level pressure fighter who would beat a fighter pretty much every time. Indeed, he only ever really lost in his prime to a blind counter punch from Marquez and a dodgy decision.

However, I personally never thought for a minute he'd beat Mayweather, because an elite boxer beats an elite fighter every time. His fight with Mayweather went exactly as I thought it would - in that regard, Pacquiao always looked beatable.
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Pacquiao from the David Diaz fight til the 3rd fight with Juan Manuel Marquez looked unbeatable. He was punch perfect in every fight and made it looked easyp. Plus some of the size differences in the fighters he fought was madness, especially the Margarito fight. At that time frame from 2008-2012 he was destroying everyone in front of him. Diaz, De la Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and pretty sure he fought Josh Clottley around that time frame. He was destroying the lot of them, out boxing them. Not once in them fights did he look beatable.


It was a round that time when Mayweather wanted him to take blood tests and the knock outs stopped. I think once he beat Cotto the way he did, questions started getting asked.

Juan Manuel Marquez exposed him for not been able to deal with counter punchers. I remember the first fight, Pacquiao dropped him three times in the first round, JMM was shocked at the speed. Once he got to grips with him it was a close fight, it ended in a draw but I think Pacquiao nicked it by a round. The second fight was very close again, Pacquiao got the decision but could of went either way. The third fight between them, Marquez imo won that fight by about 5 rounds. He was countering all night, making Pacquiao miss, had Pacquiao in trouble couple of times. Such an underrated boxer was Marquez.

I always fancied Mayweather to beat him too! I always fancied Mayweather to beat him from when the fight got made. It went exactly the way I thought too. I knew Mayweathers boxing ability, IQ and his defence would he to much to take on. It was just a shame, it never happened between 2009-11.
 

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