Those of you who think that the BLM movement is a force for good should take a look at the statistics of who kills blacks in the US. Most are killed by other black men not by white police, who actually kill twice as many whites.
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So you are saying they should carry on being oppressed??
What statistics are you using by the way?
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Have any BLM supporters actually considered why black people are shot disproportionately to their population? I'll give you a clue. It isn't racism. There are two key reasons:
1. Many cops in America are poorly trained and panic in difficult, dangerous situations. That isn't racism.
2. Black Americans commit roughly 5x more jail-worthy crime than white people in the USA. Thinking logically, you will find that almost all of these shootings by police have happened during arrests. If black people are committing more crime, they will obviously be arrested more, statistically hugely increasing their chances of being killed in an encounter with police.
Don't get me wrong, most of the killings are great injustices. However, they aren't racial injustices.
This idea of "racist" shootings by police is mainly caused by groups like BLM getting loads of media coverage from their ridiculous fact-shy protests, as well as the almost inevitable rioting after an incident, drawing more attention to it. In 2015, police killed nearly twice as many whites than blacks in the USA, but you wouldn't be able to name a single white victim. There simply isn't the media coverage, for the reasons cited above.
Police aren't oppressing black people. The social problems that cause these huge crime rates have nothing to do with the police.
1. Many cops in America are poorly trained and panic in difficult, dangerous situations. That isn't racism.
2. Black Americans commit roughly 5x more jail-worthy crime than white people in the USA. Thinking logically, you will find that almost all of these shootings by police have happened during arrests. If black people are committing more crime, they will obviously be arrested more, statistically hugely increasing their chances of being killed in an encounter with police.
Don't get me wrong, most of the killings are great injustices. However, they aren't racial injustices.
This idea of "racist" shootings by police is mainly caused by groups like BLM getting loads of media coverage from their ridiculous fact-shy protests, as well as the almost inevitable rioting after an incident, drawing more attention to it. In 2015, police killed nearly twice as many whites than blacks in the USA, but you wouldn't be able to name a single white victim. There simply isn't the media coverage, for the reasons cited above.
Police aren't oppressing black people. The social problems that cause these huge crime rates have nothing to do with the police.
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Got far too much joy from seeing a random Godspeed shout out.
It's amazing how us white people in the UK can judge how black people are not being mistreated in the US and dismiss a protest movement which was started up in the tragic death of teenager Trayvon Martin.
While you are at it can you sort the Syrian civil war as well.
I'd like a viewpoint from some of our American friends on the matter and let's see what they say.
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While you are at it can you sort the Syrian civil war as well.
I'd like a viewpoint from some of our American friends on the matter and let's see what they say.
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Yeah, but they don't video it half the time...
Seriously though, everyone who isn't plod or a VIP gets it. That should be the end of it; it shouldn't some competition to see who's the most oppressed.
There's a huge difference between personal, volitional racism and institutional racism, but to say institutional racism can't or doesn't exist when it clearly does is ignorance (I hope!). Simply put--white people aren't treated the way black people are in the US. It's been this way for a long time (historic), it happens repeatedly (systemic), and it happens through bodies of governance which are supposed to create opportunity rather than reduce opportunity (institutional).
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I never said that it didn't exist. I've accepted that there are a number of intermingling social problems which mean black people in the USA are living poorer lives than white people, leading to far higher crime rates. I wouldn't call it racism as such, but it is definitely more difficult for black people to make something of their lives over there.
What I'm trying to say is that BLM is a joke of an organisation because it blames supposed "police racism" for the deaths of black youths, despite the fact that it can be easily explained with a bit of common sense/simple stats. I'm not even going into the wider problems faced by black Americans because they are far too complicated. BLM exacerbates these problems black people have by inflaming race relations. They are a negtive force in every aspect, built on lies to spread more lies. That doesn't help anyone.
There's more than enough to read on this subject, and I can't look all of it up, but here are a few samples:
On how the FHA created a path to home buying (and wealth creation) for whites but denied to the same to blacks
*It's worth noting that in most places, school districts are tied to home value, and school districts are gerrymandered much the same as congressional districts. Tons to read on gerrymandering (1, 2, 3)
A summary of data on institutional racism (1, 2) in policing, schooling, courts and criminal prosecution, etc. (Not all is compelling, but most is).
A quick commentary on the SCOTUS decision on disparate impact (in short, ignoring the impact of a policy is just as bad as creating one with neglectful intent.)
There's plenty more to read and discuss if you're willing, but that's all this middle-class, white male can remember off the top of my head and I'm too privileged and lazy to do any more research at the moment.
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