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According to the media the other would be buyer for the RS was a Singaporean billioniare so why can't he come for us? Bollocks, Harris get in touch with him.
 

Not particularly, no.

Hicks and Gillett bought at the wrong time and their empires are crumbling (especially Hicks).

Revenues and operating profits have never been higher at ManU.

Which is great for the Glazers but not so good for the club as any operating profit is sevicing a debt and not being reinvested in facilities and personnel. That, I suppose, is my point. Investors are interested in generating a return for themselves and if that helps the club then fine but if it doesn't it's no skin off their nose as long as the asset is not devalued before they milk it dry. I think most people on here actually want a benefactor when they say they want an investor and there aren't any of those about unfortunately.
 
Agreed, there are no benefactors out there for Everton...

The Glazers have fully justfied the debt load imo. They have grown revenue and operating profits, which wasn't happening before the club was purchased. The benefactor model is unrealistic in this age and highly unstable if you don't have the right benefactor. There are only a handful of people in the world with enough cash to purchase a PL club outright, and even fewer who have any interest in doing so.
 

BK for me. City, Manure, RS etc have no one with any links or real love of the club. That's not what football is about.
 

Agreed, there are no benefactors out there for Everton...

The Glazers have fully justfied the debt load imo. They have grown revenue and operating profits, which wasn't happening before the club was purchased. The benefactor model is unrealistic in this age and highly unstable if you don't have the right benefactor. There are only a handful of people in the world with enough cash to purchase a PL club outright, and even fewer who have any interest in doing so.

The Glazers have justified their debt load? They posted a near £50 million pound loss this year due to spiralling debt burden, that may improve but as interest rates are at historic lows I doubt it, even with the issue of the one off bond payment. Sooner, rather than later that will have an impact on transfer funds, salary funds and infrastructure. Can I also remind you that 2nd in the league and early exits from the Champions league and FA cup hardly represents success for Man Utd even if they did win the Carling cup.
 
They have grown revenue and operating profits to historic levels. They've increased the value of the club. I understand debt is a horrible 4-letter word in football, but they're using it the right way.

The problem with Liverpool isn't their debt, it's that they can't grow revenues and they're run by a bunch of bumbling idiots. Hicks has already run 2 sports clubs into the ground before Liverpool.

If Liverpool had shown a quarter of the operating profits of ManU, RBS would renew the loans and they wouldn't be in this situation.
 
The Glazers have justified their debt load? They posted a near £50 million pound loss this year due to spiralling debt burden, that may improve but as interest rates are at historic lows I doubt it, even with the issue of the one off bond payment. Sooner, rather than later that will have an impact on transfer funds, salary funds and infrastructure. Can I also remind you that 2nd in the league and early exits from the Champions league and FA cup hardly represents success for Man Utd even if they did win the Carling cup.

Said it last year, Utd are in decline.
 
They have grown revenue and operating profits to historic levels. They've increased the value of the club. I understand debt is a horrible 4-letter word in football, but they're using it the right way.

The problem with Liverpool isn't their debt, it's that they can't grow revenues and they're run by a bunch of bumbling idiots. Hicks has already run 2 sports clubs into the ground before Liverpool.

If Liverpool had shown a quarter of the operating profits of ManU, RBS would renew the loans and they wouldn't be in this situation.

Revenue growth is dependent largely on marketability based on on-field prowess, if they continue to underinvest in the playing squad, and remember SAF will retire/die eventually and a change of management can have serious repercussions, that is not guaranteed. If they start failing to regularly pick up silverware all the Asian and North American 'fans' will switch to Chelsea or Man City or Barcelona or Real Madrid or Inter Milan etc.. and you watch that growth drop off. I'm not convinced by the Glazers plans nor the plans of any leveraged buyout management teams.
 
Revenue growth is dependent largely on marketability based on on-field prowess, if they continue to underinvest in the playing squad, and remember SAF will retire/die eventually and a change of management can have serious repercussions, that is not guaranteed. If they start failing to regularly pick up silverware all the Asian and North American 'fans' will switch to Chelsea or Man City or Barcelona or Real Madrid or Inter Milan etc.. and you watch that growth drop off. I'm not convinced by the Glazers plans nor the plans of any leveraged buyout management teams.

There rightly meffed mate, heard it here first.
 

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