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no argument.


why are you talking about him?

i asked if VDM was a better signing than jags as he is a more technical player. if you can't answer that then i'm done for this discussion.
 

Not a lot no. He switches off and has to rely far too much on last ditch tackles

So does Yobo and has to rely on his pace.

Is it any different? Yobo's pace gets him out of trouble whereas Jagielka's tackling ability gets him out of trouble. If they get the ball away which they usually do what the problem?
 
If you watch again N'Zogbia beats Ossie to the loose ball, Jags and Carsley go to close him down and he skins them. That happens, players get skinned but it doesn't mean he was at fault for the goal. It was Yobo's fault for sticking his leg out and making the foul. He got caught flat footed and made the wrong decision.

The Arsenal goal could have happened to any centre half. Bentdner dropped off Carsley and attacked the ball. If it's Jagielka fault then you could say the same about Carsley. In reality it wasn't anyone's, things like this happen all the time.

It happened to Lescott the game before actually against Villa when Carew scored. Is he at fault?

I'm talking about Lescott's general all round play in the final third. He dribbling wasn't as good, his passing was sloppy at times and he wasn't as effective going forward. Yes he scored from a set piece but thats not what I'm talking about, he's always going to be a threat at set pieces whether he's playing well or not.

Anyway, I didn't expect you to agree with me or Moyes so we'll leave it at that.

Nzogbia went round jags like he wasnt there, thats poor play by your star man.
Carsley had to go to the ball leaving Jags to pick the striker up, which he didnt leaving him to score with a free header
 
Nzogbia went round jags like he wasnt there, thats poor play by your star man.
Carsley had to go to the ball leaving Jags to pick the striker up, which he didnt leaving him to score with a free header

As I said we'll leave it at that, you've made your decision and no one is going to change your mind on Jags.

I find it quite sad actually, it seems more of a personal grudge to me. Even if he played like Lescott in terms of quality and consistency you still wouldn't like him just because his name is Phil Jagielka.
 
As I said we'll leave it at that, you've made your decision and no one is going to change your mind on Jags.

I find it quite sad actually, it seems more of a personal grudge to me. Even if he played like Lescott in terms of quality and consistency you still wouldn't like him just because his name is Phil Jagielka.

Ask yourself in answer to that TB...........Why?:huh:
 

Best 5:
Arteta
Lescott
Martyn
Howard
Yakubu

Bubblers: Cahill, Bent

Worst 5:
Lie Wei Feng (Mistakenly got instead of Lie Tie, but still)
Kroldrup
Ibrahim Saeed
Anderson de Silva
Baardsen

Bubblers: Rodrigo, VdM, Wright, Jeffers
 
I post what i believe in and am not afraid to say it, If you dont agree feel free to argue against it

He doesn't need to "argue" against it.

The post refutes itself.

I would be the same as someone posting "Cristiano Ronaldo is a crap player."

Get it?
 
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