Transfer Rumour Ben Doak

…the same applies, that acceleration on existing scar tissue means they’ll inevitably pop. I know from experience, my quad and hamstring problems started after I signed for RS, teachers took me to Anfield during my lunch break for treatment off Joe Fagan.

They troubled me throughout my playing days forced me to even stop playing 5-a-side as an old bloke. Must be dreadful things for a professional to have to manage.
I see what you're saying and you're right its a concern but I'm sure our medical staff will know if it's a deal breaker or not. Anyway it's just a rumour for now as I've not seen any solid links that were trying to buy him apart from Moyes admires him
 

I've seen him a lot this season (in-laws are season ticket holders and my son is a Boro fan)

He was far and away Boro's best and most effective player until he got injured and often had teams tripling up to mark him out of games. Which was effective as Boro had no threat down the other wing at all. Despite this, he still had 10 goal involvements in 24 games plus many other chances created that were missed or got into good positions and didn't capitalise. This doesn't overly concern me, as Morgan Rogers was extremely inconsistent at Boro then hit the ground running at Villa and looked a completely different player.

Doak is also brilliantly two footed, which is rare these days. He can go either way (to the byline or across the box) when taking his man on and scored a lovely left footed shot from the edge of the box last season.

My concern would be the injury and £30m is Liverpool tax for a wholly untested player in the Premier League, but after I was screaming for us to get Gyokeres from Coventry after watching him destroy teams all season and easily be the best player I'd seen live that season in the Championship, I'd be happy with a deal around £20m + performance based add ons
Yeah Boro fans really seemed to rate him, was getting great reviews until his injury. He’s definitely got potential but it’s the injury record. £20 mil plus ad ons would be top amount for him. Anything more I.e. £30 mil seems overpriced based on what he’s done in his career to date and a risk.
 
Hmm, never seen him live, but his YouTubes reminds me of watching Harrison. They have that same stuttering foot thing when on the ball. Looks indecisive. But hopefully with Doak it results more than just running into the opposition and losing possession.
That just about sums him up,seems to love blind alleys.
 
Yeah Boro fans really seemed to rate him, was getting great reviews until his injury. He’s definitely got potential but it’s the injury record. £20 mil plus ad ons would be top amount for him. Anything more I.e. £30 mil seems overpriced based on what he’s done in his career to date and a risk.
Given his injury record a loan with an option should be the best we offer.
 

I see what you're saying and you're right its a concern but I'm sure our medical staff will know if it's a deal breaker or not. Anyway it's just a rumour for now as I've not seen any solid links that were trying to buy him apart from Moyes admires him

….we signed Delph with a history of dodgy hamstrings and he spent most of his time here unavailable.

I’ve posted before that it should be part of our transfer strategy to not sign players who’ve had serious quad or hamstring injuries.
 
…the same applies, that acceleration on existing scar tissue means they’ll inevitably pop. I know from experience, my quad and hamstring problems started after I signed for RS, teachers took me to Anfield during my lunch break for treatment off Joe Fagan.

They troubled me throughout my playing days forced me to even stop playing 5-a-side as an old bloke. Must be dreadful things for a professional to have to manage.

im also from this kind of background but the sport science and rehabilitation is a lot better know

i know people who've had major hamstring injuries and gone on to run sub 10 second 100m

i think with proper rehab, which you'd imagine we would get at liverpool, that he should be ok
 

I think medical science may have on since the 1800s
While it has, not all injuries are equal

Different sport, mind, but pitchers in baseball treat getting a significant elbow injury requiring a surgery called Tommy John and 15 months of rehab as, in some cases, a good thing where the guy can come out the other side of it throwing harder than he did before. So many times teams won't shy away from this.

However, shoulder injuries are a different animal altogether. With significant shoulder injuries, so much can happen where they can't get velocity back.

In this case, I'd rather have a guy tear his ACL and think he can get back to 100%, whereas soft tissue injuries like a hamstring are harder to predict, and in some ways that risk always stays with you. I would definitely discount buying a guy that has had multiple hamstring injuries.
 

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