Barry/McCarthy

[DualityNSNO]

Well how about Barkley or even Osman?

Do you really think Martinez would play one player over another based on the fact he likes one more and not in a professional sense? Instead of who he believes has an impact and influence over the team?

Beliefs say: no.
Evidence of Barry playing every single game he can says: yes.

 

[Hangleton]

Only box to box midfielder in the league who can't pass forward and scores about 2 a season.

Agreed. But priceless against teams who want to attack us.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Agreed. But priceless against teams who want to attack us.

Would be good as the one DM in a 4141. If he has players beside him he'll always go safety first.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Beliefs say: no.
Evidence of Barry playing every single game he can says: yes.

Do you really think a manager earning £3m+ would risk his job/career on favourites?

Come on pal you might like Besic but he's not ready yet and we're a far more compact and better team with Barry in it.

 

[mythbuster]

Lukaku said yesterday (maybe day before) that Barry is the leader on the pitch. He's got plenty of experience, and was Villa's captain for ages, so you can well imagine that to be true.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

he might have been uncomfortable doing it but he was looking to do it because that's how the formation works. Going to one DM because we're lopsided wouldn't work because there'd be nobody to cover the the middle when the DM's covering the RB.

you can't go asymmetrical back there

Going to one DM would ensure that there was cover on the flanks and the holding player would hold a more central position, so no.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

McCarthy is supposed to be the box to box player.

Exactly. The formation and position he's playing in it, doesn't maximise his ability, most notable his engine

 

[mythbuster]

Exactly. The formation and position he's playing in it, doesn't maximise his ability, most notable his engine

A good engine is the last thing required to play the holding role, so I respectfully disagree with you on that.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Do you really think a manager earning £3m+ would risk his job/career on favourites?

Come on pal you might like Besic but he's not ready yet and we're a far more compact and better team with Barry in it.

No evidence for this whatsoever. Our record without Barry is brilliant.

 

[mythbuster]

No evidence for this whatsoever. Our record without Barry is brilliant.

Pipe down. Barry has been good so far this season. Agenda much?

 

[Walken]

It's the best combination we've got in the middle. The problem has been at one time or another either players form has suffered over the last 12 months and the other has been taking up the slack.

Besic's lack of progression last season didn't help as neither player had any competition for their place. Hopefully this year with the arrival of Cleverley plus with 12 months of development and maturing under Besic belt this should help focus their minds.

Besic was in the team playing well, far better than barry, developing with more games, then got dropped as soon as the gaffers bum boys were available, you can only present competition if the guy making the calls is even just a little bit open to the idea. I know you judge players based on servitude over ability, but even for you this is a trange statement

 

[Walken]

Pipe down. Barry has been good so far this season. Agenda much?

Boss against spurs wasnt he

 

[mythbuster]

Boss against spurs wasnt he

Had a couple of dodgy moments, hardly a terrible performance. *footballer in one under par performance shocker*

 

[Carlito]

As a pairing they're no better than Carsley and Neville.

 

[Walken]

Had a couple of dodgy moments, hardly a terrible performance. *footballer in one under par performance shocker*

Lets call a spade a spade though, he was poor against spurs, if that level of form where to continue, i dont think it will, but if he did he should not be deemed undroppable, we have some very talented cm's the competition is there if them to push each other, a top manager would take advantage of that situation and use it