I got destroyed for making that exact point weeks ago , got called a kopite , because people don't get it , he wants to move on for sure hence the quotes from kenwrong in the echo QUOTES myself an David have met with mikel a few times overvthe summer trying to persuade him his future lies with Everton " but the facts are as follows arsenal won't sell cesc for less than 35 million ,an shity want James milner (English) player rule and serville couldn't afford his shoe lace . So here's were were at -he won't sign a new contract because del bosque told him he needs to be playing regular champs league football , Steven pienarr same boat he will be rubbing his hands together at the thought of a huge signing on fee in 12 months time from a new club , so as football is quite clearly a buisness now days , do we sell them both now for good returns or play this season , get nothing for one , an minor compared to players value For the other, to be fair it's a really tough decision for moyes but I pray to god it doesn't **** up r season like the lescott catastrophe last season