Are we in a relegation battle right now?

Are we relegationally challenged?

  • No, too early in season, over 38 games there will be at least 3 crapper teams

    Votes: 62 39.5%
  • Yes, we are doomed if we don't get in a Corrupt Sam, Past-It Moyes type right now!!

    Votes: 72 45.9%
  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 23 14.6%

  • Total voters
    157
  • Poll closed .
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6 points off the relegation zone, playing poorly and struggling to get results (and shots on goal), so yes - we are in the fight.

Assuming 40 points is safety, we have 14 games to pick up 12 points - which is actually below our current points-scoring rate. We actually have to get worse (if that's possible) to go down.
We've got 28 points from 24 games so our 'current' season form is more than 1 point per game.
Under Allardyce we have 13 points from 10 games so our 'current' regime form is more than 1 point per game..
It depends on how 'current' is defined.
 

Relegation watch: We are now eight points off last place. :oops:

That’s exactly what I thought, after Swansea’s result, if we win none of the next 3 we will be right back in it. I’m not saying Swansea are capable of winning 3 on the spin, but we would probably be back down to about 15th/ 16th and right back in it. Also our goal difference is very bad
 

WE have the right man tho for it don’t we?

We certainly do ;)

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That’s exactly what I thought, after Swansea’s result, if we win none of the next 3 we will be right back in it. I’m not saying Swansea are capable of winning 3 on the spin, but we would probably be back down to about 15th/ 16th and right back in it. Also our goal difference is very bad

I guess the saving grace is there are ten other teams in the same, or worse position than us. So even in a five-game period for example, it would be extremely unlikely for all ten of those other teams to win even two of those five games. They, and us, are in the position they are in for a reason.

Obviously though, the longer we go without a win or three, we're going to dragged further into the mire.
 
WE have the right man tho for it don’t we?

I understand that you don't like Allardyce but what is your argument to back up that he won't take us to safety and is the wrong man for it? This was the reason he was brought in and since we only need about 10 points from a possible 42 to survive, with our points to game ratio above that during his time here, i'm confident he will do it.

Koeman was sacked with us sat in 18th, and at the time of Allardyce's announced appointment, which was before the West Ham game, we were 16th. We were 2 points above the drop having lost 5 of the last 7 under Unsworth, with the 2 previous games being a 5-1 humiliation at home to mid table Atalanta, and a 4-1 embarrassment at Southampton. We are now 9th, and 6 points above 18th which to me is better than the position we were in before Allardyce was appointed.

I wouldn't try and claim that he is the right man long term or that he is a great manager, but he is usually effective in steering sides away from relegation which he looks likely to do with us too. We were losing against the big sides before he came in (Spurs 3-0, United 4-0) and that has continued because he still has mostly the same imbalanced poor side that he inherited. We have also continued to drop points to sides we'd expect to do better against, but that was happening before he came in too - Southampton away, Burnley at home, Brighton away.

I think the poor run of results further highlights that we were in major trouble before he was appointed and those that claimed that appointing him was a knee jerk reaction and we weren't in trouble have been proven wrong because the poor form has continued. Time for the players to be held accountable too for collectively being terrible under 3 different managers.
 
I understand that you don't like Allardyce but what is your argument to back up that he won't take us to safety and is the wrong man for it? This was the reason he was brought in and since we only need about 10 points from a possible 42 to survive, with our points to game ratio above that during his time here, i'm confident he will do it.

Koeman was sacked with us sat in 18th, and at the time of Allardyce's announced appointment, which was before the West Ham game, we were 16th. We were 2 points above the drop having lost 5 of the last 7 under Unsworth, with the 2 previous games being a 5-1 humiliation at home to mid table Atalanta, and a 4-1 embarrassment at Southampton. We are now 9th, and 6 points above 18th which to me is better than the position we were in before Allardyce was appointed.

I wouldn't try and claim that he is the right man long term or that he is a great manager, but he is usually effective in steering sides away from relegation which he looks likely to do with us too. We were losing against the big sides before he came in (Spurs 3-0, United 4-0) and that has continued because he still has mostly the same imbalanced poor side that he inherited. We have also continued to drop points to sides we'd expect to do better against, but that was happening before he came in too - Southampton away, Burnley at home, Brighton away.

I think the poor run of results further highlights that we were in major trouble before he was appointed and those that claimed that appointing him was a knee jerk reaction and we weren't in trouble have been proven wrong because the poor form has continued. Time for the players to be held accountable too for collectively being terrible under 3 different managers.
Spot on. Have been sayin the same thing. He's not the answer long term. But others have more blame to ship
 
I understand that you don't like Allardyce but what is your argument to back up that he won't take us to safety and is the wrong man for it? This was the reason he was brought in and since we only need about 10 points from a possible 42 to survive, with our points to game ratio above that during his time here, i'm confident he will do it.

Koeman was sacked with us sat in 18th, and at the time of Allardyce's announced appointment, which was before the West Ham game, we were 16th. We were 2 points above the drop having lost 5 of the last 7 under Unsworth, with the 2 previous games being a 5-1 humiliation at home to mid table Atalanta, and a 4-1 embarrassment at Southampton. We are now 9th, and 6 points above 18th which to me is better than the position we were in before Allardyce was appointed.

I wouldn't try and claim that he is the right man long term or that he is a great manager, but he is usually effective in steering sides away from relegation which he looks likely to do with us too. We were losing against the big sides before he came in (Spurs 3-0, United 4-0) and that has continued because he still has mostly the same imbalanced poor side that he inherited. We have also continued to drop points to sides we'd expect to do better against, but that was happening before he came in too - Southampton away, Burnley at home, Brighton away.

I think the poor run of results further highlights that we were in major trouble before he was appointed and those that claimed that appointing him was a knee jerk reaction and we weren't in trouble have been proven wrong because the poor form has continued. Time for the players to be held accountable too for collectively being terrible under 3 different managers.

It’s a sarcastic comment that he’s not going to keep us up. That’s why we got him in the first place. Soon as that’s achieved it should be laters Sam.
 

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