Anyone read Duncs book yet?

[Joey66]

I am reading the Goodison history book & Big Dunc just an icon is in it far to much for my liking its as if he could turn it on if he wanted to - some great performances from him - but his goal tally was woeful for us as a no 9 IMO - bear in mind he played in some poor & good Everton teams - his 2nd spell he was out injured a hell of a lot too - an Icon not a Legend IMO - in his early career up in Scotland he was the business as a younger player though on the ground & in the air ....

 

[Drico]

All the stuff about players and managers should be kept in-house.

You dont wash your dirty linen in public. It's snide and brings the club into disrepute.

We're better than that. Better than him.

I wish more linen was washed in public. It just shows how utterly dysfunctional we were and how many of our so-called "heroes" and "custodians" were incompetent, venal charlatans.

 

[Drico]

Carlo and Everton was that romantic one night stand we ruined but we'll always look back and say "what if?"

It was all going so well until Carlo dropped the hand and realised he was inadvertently part of The Crying Game...

No wonder he ran.

 

[EFCPaul]

His ego 100% ran away with him during his second spell. Walking around the place acting the big b******* with everybody when on the pitch he'd become a waste of time. Out injured or suspended almost permanently whilst being our highest earner. Moyes was right to challenge and banish him.

Seems his spell in Majorca, and subsequent financial troubles, brought him crashing back to Earth. Seems a far more amiable and humble person than 20 years ago. Hope he gets a proper go of it in management.

 

[davek]

I wish more linen was washed in public. It just shows how utterly dysfunctional we were and how many of our so-called "heroes" and "custodians" were incompetent, venal charlatans.

Yes, and that's fair enough if that were aimed at the top and ruthlessly exposing the criminal negligence and mismanagement of Everton at a structural level...but that's not what this tittle tattle merchant is doing.

He's just handed Winter a load of personal vendettas and allowed him to damage this club with.

 

[DuncanPatterson]

Yes, and that's fair enough if that were aimed at the top and ruthlessly exposing the criminal negligence and mismanagement of Everton at a structural level...but that's not what this tittle tattle merchant is doing.

He's just handed Winter a load of personal vendettas and allowed him to damage this club with.

I suppose you either don't want Ferguson at Everton "stealing a wage" (your words) or off doing something else to make money.

All these biographies are full of the juiciest details. Presumably there's no NDA covering whatever he's said in the book...

 

[davek]

I suppose you either don't want Ferguson at Everton "stealing a wage" (your words) or off doing something else to make money.

All these biographies are full of the juiciest details. Presumably there's no NDA covering whatever he's said in the book...

He's a fraud.

We got practically no value from him but he's been handed a lifetime's worth of cash from Everton.

That's the fact of the matter.

 

[TX Bill]

Battering burglars
Drinking ale
Battering footballers
Feeding pigeons
Battering physios
Barlinnie
Getting sent off
Eating veggie burgers
Getting sacked

'An enthralling read' - Times Literary Review

'Couldn't put it down' - New Yorker

'Surely a Pulitzer Prize winner' - London Review of Books

Glad to see you haven't changed. Quality post.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

That's the fact of the matter.

Again, no it's not. It's simply your own opinion.

For someone who claims to know so much about so much, you seem incapable of grasping the basics.

 

[DuncanPatterson]

He's a fraud.

We got practically no value from him but he's been handed a lifetime's worth of cash from Everton.

That's the fact of the matter.

Football is full of actual frauds

Duncan played a bit of football and got paid to do so

What came after that was only possible because others kept offering him jobs at Everton

If people refused to take jobs because they were worried they'd not be giving great value to the company they'd work for, then we'd have about 99% unemployment in this country

 

[knowing your history]

Was flicking through it for ten minutes in Tesco today.

Was claiming his goals in 96/97 kept the team up. He mentioned one of the goals v Man. United but that was right at the start of the season in August ffs....It was a poor run either side of Joe leaving but I feel it was a bit like Spurs/Man. United this season. Team were already safe around April so just gave up which meant they were closer to bottom three by final day than at any point before. Can remember a desperate 3-0 loss at Sunderland a game or two before the final day which hinted at the struggles to come.

97/98 he has more of a point. With the Bolton hat trick in late December 1997 (which was a critical game to win really) he scored 9 goals in the 14 games he played in that run in. Was a bit of bitterness in that he mentions no one really talks about that compared to Super Kev the next year but then he scored at that rate from March-May so that is why people remember more with the goals being condensed. Also said he would've scored more but he didn't stat pad with penalties. Who was actually on penalties in 97/98? All I can remember is Barmby having his saved on the final day so I presume Speed was on them before he left mid season.

Anyway says he and Howard went for a few glasses to "celebrate" staying up a week after the Coventry game and they'd already forgotten who even half of the players were playing that season in the various positions!

Also says he came back for a massive paycut of 21k a week in August 2000. At the time Roy Keane was highest paid player in U.K on 52k/p/w so Big Dunc was still doing o.k.

Will read more this time next week when I'm trusted with the food shop again....

 

[ically]

I’m sick of seeing him and hearing him,
Talisman yes, legend no.

 

[Cels]

Battering burglars
Drinking ale
Battering footballers
Feeding pigeons
Battering physios
Barlinnie
Getting sent off
Eating veggie burgers
Getting sacked

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning, since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it

 

[toffeeblue9]

Went to the night with him at Blackstock Market this evening. I think a lot of my perceptions about him are right - loves Everton but loves being an Everton idol just as much and I have no issue with that.

Think we provided him an identity and somewhere to belong when he really needed it and he grabbed hold of it and made that his thing.

Would I have wanted him as our manager? No, definitely not, but what he was (a talisman to cling to in a dark time) is exactly what he knew he was.

More self-aware that I thought he would be in terms of owning his mistakes and his flaws but equally I don't think the way things have worked out is a great injustice

 

[maccavennie]

Went to the night with him at Blackstock Market this evening. I think a lot of my perceptions about him are right - loves Everton but loves being an Everton idol just as much and I have no issue with that.

Think we provided him an identity and somewhere to belong when he really needed it and he grabbed hold of it and made that his thing.

Would I have wanted him as our manager? No, definitely not, but what he was (a talisman to cling to in a dark time) is exactly what he knew he was.

More self-aware that I thought he would be in terms of owning his mistakes and his flaws but equally I don't think the way things have worked out is a great injustice

I went as well tonight mate and that's a good post.