Current Affairs Anti-Homeless Architecture

[4737carlin]

I can tell you that the anti skateboard stuff is just that and when it first started appearing a number of years ago there was an outrage within the skateboarding community as it was an ex-skateboarder turned architect who came up with the whole concept of it and he got accused of being a sell out by all the little skater kids.

Grinding along walls can and does cause real damage, even plenty of listed building have had to add these along with spikes to prevent pigeons.

 

[LostLegend]

Becuase it's a really stupid post.

Its not a bridge for a start, examine the photo, what can you see, what potential dangers are there ?

Also them sloped seats on stations, come on, you really think homeless people are going to be sleeping on station platforms?

Homelessness is a serious problem but stuff like this just makes a mockery of the issue.

Not a bridge? are you being that pedantic? It's an overpass then. But it would still provide shelter from rain.
What other purpose would there be for the spikes? Please don't say "to prevent cars from cutting into the opposite lane" because there's an obvious hole in that theory.

Also them sloped seats on stations, come on, you really think homeless people are going to be sleeping on station platforms?

Yes, they do. This type of seating is also used at bus stops as well.

Homelessness is a serious problem but stuff like this just makes a mockery of the issue.

Are you denying that anti-homeless architecture is a thing? How does it make a mockery of the issue?

 

[Simon Buttle]

Grinding along walls can and does cause real damage, even plenty of listed building have had to add these along with spikes to prevent pigeons.

Oh i know it does, skateboarding does cause damage to stuff i ain't going to argue with that.

 

[4737carlin]

Not a bridge? are you being that pedantic? It's an overpass then. But it would still provide shelter from rain.
What other purpose would there be for the spikes? Please don't say "to prevent cars from cutting into the opposite lane" because there's an obvious hole in that theory.


Yes, they do. This type of seating is also used at bus stops as well.



Are you denying that anti-homeless architecture is a thing? How does it make a mockery of the issue?

Those spikes are to prevent cars crossing, of course they are.
Besides it would be far to dangerous to have people sleeping there.

The only anti homeless architecture picture you used was the one in Liverpool on Castle Street, the rest is nonsense.

 

[LostLegend]

Those spikes are to prevent cars crossing, of course they are.
Besides it would be far to dangerous to have people sleeping there.

Then why, of all the ones I have seen myself, are they only placed under bridges and flyovers?
The old flyover at the top of Dale street in town had them (before the whole thing was demolished a couple of years ago) and as soon as the covered area ended, so did the spikes.

You're being incredibly naïve here.

 

[4737carlin]

Then why, of all the ones I have seen myself, are they only placed under bridges and flyovers?
The old flyover at the top of Dale street in town had them (before the whole thing was demolished a couple of years ago) and as soon as the covered area ended, so did the spikes.

You're being incredibly naïve here.

No it didn't.

 

[longers]

you really think homeless people are going to be sleeping on station platforms?

Why is that so hard to believe ? Ive seen countless homeless people sleeping on station platforms throughout my lifetime.

Very odd post

 

[4737carlin]

Why is that so hard to believe ? Ive seen countless homeless people sleeping on station platforms throughout my lifetime.

Very odd post

Homeless people don't sleep on station platforms, not in the UK anyway.

 

[longers]

Homeless people don't sleep on station platforms, not in the UK anyway.

Are you seriously expecting me to believe that you've gone round every station in the UK at night monitoring homeless activity ?

Ive literally seen homeless people sleeping on platforms numerous times over the years whilst living in London, there was a guy who slept on the platform in my local station Strawberry Hill for about 6 months, I saw him 5 days a week every morning.

Is it widespread ? maybe not. Are station benches now specifically designed so homeless people cant sleep on them ? I don't know.

Do some homeless people sleep on station platforms ? Quite obviously yes unless the ones ive seen are all role playing being homeless.

 

[edge]

Are you seriously expecting me to believe that you've gone round every station in the UK at night monitoring homeless activity ?

Ive literally seen homeless people sleeping on platforms numerous times over the years whilst living in London, there was a guy who slept on the platform in my local station Strawberry Hill for about 6 months, I saw him 5 days a week every morning.

I work in the rail industry, you don't really get them in main line stations, but the outstations that are not locked up at night to get homeless people sleeping on the platforms.
There was a campaign in the Merseyside area last year for staff to contact a homeless help line if any were around their stations, so it definitely happens.
To the average traveller they would be unaware to it, but it's happening.

 

[AsiaAsia82]

If a council can provide public toilets there should also provide a location with toilets and a single occupancy warm spec to lie on. It can be done similar to motorway service stations in France for example. As long as the sleepers know at 8am the whole space is going to be hosed down.

 

[Yarrgh]

Homeless people don't sleep on station platforms, not in the UK anyway.

Actually they do. Also so do the inebriated or otherwise incapacitated. It's a way of moving people on. It makes the environment less conducive to people lingering there or heaven forbid get their head down for the night.

 

[trueblue84]

I've got no problem with making public spaces less open for homeless people settling, if there are alternative safe spaces offered to them. Unfortunately, the government doesn't do much to help them find somewhere to stay.

It's a balancing act. On the one hand, the general public want to go to spaces that are safe and clean. On the other hand, most homeless people don't want to be homeless and are just trying to survive. They deserve the access to the basic needs we all take for granted.

 

[4737carlin]

Are you seriously expecting me to believe that you've gone round every station in the UK at night monitoring homeless activity ?

Ive literally seen homeless people sleeping on platforms numerous times over the years whilst living in London, there was a guy who slept on the platform in my local station Strawberry Hill for about 6 months, I saw him 5 days a week every morning.

Is it widespread ? maybe not. Are station benches now specifically designed so homeless people cant sleep on them ? I don't know.

Do some homeless people sleep on station platforms ? Quite obviously yes unless the ones ive seen are all role playing being homeless.

Ok, you might get them at rural places but the OP tried to make out station platform are seats that are designs to stop homeless people sleeping there, which is total nonsense. Stations are locked up tight, mainly to prevent metal thieves and graffiti artist's, apart from ones away from the main line stations and city's which is where homelesses is the biggst problem.

 

[4737carlin]

I work in the rail industry, you don't really get them in main line stations, but the outstations that are not locked up at night to get homeless people sleeping on the platforms.
There was a campaign in the Merseyside area last year for staff to contact a homeless help line if any were around their stations, so it definitely happens.
To the average traveller they would be unaware to it, but it's happening.

A fella was sleeping under the first railway bridge from leaving New Brighton Station, about 25 years ago, He's actually in a care home now near me.
Not sure how he was getting down there as it not an easy places to access, but i wondered if he was waiting until the last last train had gone and walking back off the platform, crossing the rails, not wise at all.