2022/23 Anthony Gordon

[willo30]

Best of the rest isn’t a measure of success it’s phrase that is and was steeped in irony.
Competing for actual trophies has to to be the aim for any club let alone Everton or what’s the actual point?

We were competing.
We got to a cup final.
We finished 4th.

 

[Cool_Blue]

Taking Broja on loan in exchange for selling Gordon would be very disappointing.
Broja is still more potential than reality.
He is a also CF rather than Forward so once Calvert - Lewin returns in two or three weeks he will be a bench warmer at best.
If we have to sell Gordon let’s not end up paying for the dubious privilege of developing another teams player only to have to pay out more money on next seasons replacement.

By which time we could well be sitting in 20th place looking at the upcoming fixtures. Based on last season’s horror show, expecting DCL to come back in and stay fit for 30 games is a stretch tbh.

 

[Nymzee]

 

[4737carlin]

I'm worried me might keep him, revitalising this squad can only be done if we sell him

 

[trueblue84]

Will onlybe remembered for having a Clare balding haircut and trying to geg in on the Calvert lewin/tom Davies fashion show.

 

[Lob]

It is difficult to put a value on players these days. Gordon is basically worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Chelsea know we don't want to let him go and so they know they will have to tempt us with way over and above what people think he is worth to succeed in getting him. They see a young up and coming lad with lots of skill and potential and so to them he is worth whatever they pay for him. It is that simple really.

We have just got to make sure that we cream them for as much money as possible and as early as possible so we have the time to spend it.

 

[GoldenToffee]

"Put... Frank is refreshingly laid back for manager who will get his side relegated unless Gordon is sold and the funds are used to bring in some new players"

 

[Saint Domingo]

Is he that much better than Demarai Gray? If both were one on one I’d probably back Gray. Gordon works a bit harder off the ball. He could improve I suppose, but both to me are mid table premier league wide forwards. They’ll get you a handful of goals and assists each season, but not in the top category.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

By which time we could well be sitting in 20th place looking at the upcoming fixtures. Based on last season’s horror show, expecting Dominic Calvert-Lewin to come back in and stay fit for 30 games is a stretch tbh.

Point being we buy someone who can operate across the front three and provide cover for as well as play alongside Calvert- Lewin.

 

[Billy Dean]

But isn't that risking bring stuck in the same cycle again and again and again mate. You sell off the few players you have who has e the potential to really take off and make a massive difference then basically you're just delaying the inevitable.

Take west ham - they kept Rice instead of cashing in and it paid off way more than if they'd tried a short term fix by cashing in on him (they did that when they had Lampard, Cole and Ferdinand and see what happened).

If we literally don't have any money whatsoever without selling then your point may be more valid, but then questions have to be asked about why in that situation do you pay 20m for McNeil and 30+m for Onana who isn't any sort of short term fix but a longer term project based on potential.


Can't have it both ways imo, either our recruitment has been woeful in terms of proper use of finances or we have finances and selling Gordon gives us a way of not actually spending money we don't want to

In all fairness, if WHAM were in dire need of reinforcing their ranks to avoid relegation, they would have cashed in on Rice IMO

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

We were competing.
We got to a cup final.
We finished 4th.

If you think that represents some form of success fair enough but we are worlds apart in this.

 

[Lanolin]

But isn't that risking bring stuck in the same cycle again and again and again mate. You sell off the few players you have who has e the potential to really take off and make a massive difference then basically you're just delaying the inevitable.

Take west ham - they kept Rice instead of cashing in and it paid off way more than if they'd tried a short term fix by cashing in on him (they did that when they had Lampard, Cole and Ferdinand and see what happened).

If we literally don't have any money whatsoever without selling then your point may be more valid, but then questions have to be asked about why in that situation do you pay 20m for McNeil and 30+m for Onana who isn't any sort of short term fix but a longer term project based on potential.


Can't have it both ways imo, either our recruitment has been woeful in terms of proper use of finances or we have finances and selling Gordon gives us a way of not actually spending money we don't want to

Of course it's a risk, literally nobody is saying it isn't a risk, it's just a decision on whether to stick or twist. Again, i'd much rather we weren't in a position to even have to consider the bid, but it's very obvious that isn't the case.

I don't think Rice is a great example personally. He was further along in his development when the bids came in so there was considerably less risk involved; obviously it's always possible that things will go wrong but Rice was already a genuinely top PL player at the point that West Ham were turning down bids so the chance of those bids never coming again was small. With Gordon the bid is purely based on potential, and there's the fear that if he doesn't push on this year then he'll never be valued at anything like that again. For every Ronaldo and Lampard that you talked about, there's a Lennon, a Wright-Phillips, a Hudson-Odoi who have seen their value take a big dip after bursting on to the scene. The club has to weigh up whether they're willing to take that risk. For me, I would take the money at this stage, but not because I think Gordon's rubbish or will never get better, they're just straw man arguments.

 

[chuffy]

Will onlybe remembered for having a Clare balding haircut and trying to geg in on the Calvert lewin/tom Davies fashion show.

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David Squires had it a little differently

 

[4737carlin]

We were competing.
We got to a cup final.
We finished 4th.

Then Moshiri turned up and killed it

 

[Clarky cat]

I imagine this “£60 million” from Chelsea everyone is citing will be a lot like the “£40 million” for Dele otherwise it would of been accepted already