American looking for Premier League team to support

[Omarza]

Something written on another forum has made me rethink my approach. It's quite daft, isn't it?

You may not be aware that, with the Premier League coming to American television, there have been pushes by clubs and the press to "choose a club", replete with guides and lists of pros and cons. I've seen them when I log into facebook, there are posts from people/pages that I don't follow in my feed, after I became a "fan" or "liked" some players I had seen in the World Cup. There have also been coupons for discounts in the club stores. Sometimes the recruitment efforts are couched in nominally independent articles similar to the Liverpool one I linked to.

Since I didn't like their listed pros and cons (being famous and/or with a good chance to win was a major recruitment point), I decided to make my own list of pros and cons.

Until I read that post, I didn't realize that, in doing so, I was falling into the trap of accepting their approach to team choosing as the best approach.

Still, I have to start somewhere, and for now, that "somewhere" is attending a game when I'm in England later this year. That forces the decision of what team to spend money on. If I'm going to spend a good deal of money on some tickets later this year, I at least hope to not support a noxious team.

My first basic criterion is that if they're assholes, they haven't manipulated everyone into thinking they're good, upstanding people. There are a ton of assholes in sports--and in the world. It's bad enough when you're an asshole and acknowledge it. It's even worse when you're an asshole and have such a good PR machine or have the media in your pocket that you come across as the good guy. Those situations are dangerous because they put you in a position where you can mistreat others, and no one will believe it. For example, Lance Armstrong is an asshole and has been for a long time. When people tried to speak out against him, he ruined their lives and careers. He was able to do this because he had crafted a perfect PR image. Same with the Duke basketball team.

My second basic criterion is that they play a fair game. That means not trying to bully the referees, minimal diving, etc.

What teams should be ruled on the basis of these two criteria alone? Please be honest.

We play hard at times but we play honestly...something we pride ourselves with. Something you wont find at many other teams is the team spirit Everton has. Our PR are not amongst the best out there but it is increasing with RM now as everyone seems to like him in the media (with reason). I also attach a video for you...one of my Favorited to watch at times...dating back to '85. I am shamelessly quoting the one poster on that video (the videos site)..."No one even does things like this as good as Everton. What an amazing and unique Club. You can have your Liverpools, your Man Uniteds, your Tottenham Hotspurs, no one can touch the Blues, NO ONE!"

 

[exiledtoffee]

Which part of Canada are you in mate?

Ya, and this past winter may have been the worst, just no reprieve, seemed like 6 months straight of pure [Poor language removed]

As for the OP, I agree with what a few others have said, if you need to weigh pro's and con's, EVERTON will be a difficult team to support. You either are EVERTON or your not, like many have said we didn't "choose" to support EVERTON, I couldn't even tell you why I started (and we were dire when I was a kid in the 70's) it just happened......

 

[chicoazul]

Had me a grilled cheese sammich yesterday...gouda and cheddar...magic.

1 it should be on a singular piece of toast and not sandwich.

2 PHWOAR!

3 any salsa on that lid?

 

[Muzumbu]

@PotentialFan support us mate

if u support Villa you'd be on suicide watch for the rest of your life.

 

[ilikecheese]

1 it should be on a singular piece of toast and not sandwich.

2 PHWOAR!

3 any salsa on that lid?

1. Yes...but it's America, we need that extra bread to fuel our fatness.

2. YES!

3. No lid...ffs...don't mess with perfection

 

[Kiwi]

1. Yes...but it's America, we need that extra bread to fuel our fatness.

2. YES!

3. No lid...ffs...don't mess with perfection

Just put pineapple on his sammich, it'll serve him right for being a placcy scouse bell.

 

[Weezernofx]

Is "PotentialFan" one of the greatest trolls ever? I'm normally just a lurker on these threads, but this seems like a classic effort. Kudos to PotentialFan if so. Otherwise, welcome to the US Toffees club!

 

[chicoazul]

Just put pineapple on his sammich, it'll serve him right for being a placcy scouse bell.

Placcy?

WOOL.

 

[ilikecheese]

Just put pineapple on his sammich, it'll serve him right for being a placcy scouse bell.

Probably would be better than that mango chutney bollocks he was just trying to trick me into ruining my cheese brilliance with...

 

[the sniderman]

hey you. choose everton.

 

[PotentialFan]

Holy cow! This article seems like a satire until you realize it's the BBC.

Do you think they bought off or blackmailed the judge? I can't imagine a non-corrupt, non-threatened judge would say those things.

Are the Liverpool FC fans in denial about this incident and truly believe Gerrard didn't do anything illegal, or do they know he did something illegal but don't care? I'm not sure which one is more disturbing.

Damn, the more I read about the case, the worse it gets. Because he was acquitted, Gerrard was reimbursed £311,000 in legal fees.

How the f*** does a simple case of assault cost £311,000 in legal costs? And how can someone that wealthy be so shameless as to abuse a system designed to help those with limited financial means get adequate legal representation?

Disgusting prick. I'm embarrassed I ever thought highly of him.

 

[crusade]

I think Swansea would be a good fit for you.

 

[Zaschrona]

I am a Czech Evertonian. In my honest opinon, based on your thoughts, you should decide between Everton and Spurs
Liverpool = defending of Suarez, deluded and racist fans, biased love from media and refs, their international fans are absolute bandwagoners who want to support a club who mainly wins and is so "cool" in everything thankfully to that bias from media
Man Utd = a lot of similar things to Liverpool, but mainly they as a club are the biggest factory of money, they are literally just buying trophies, because they have so much money from all these bandwagon companies and fans who support them only because they win...
Arsenal = their fans are usually whiners who complain about everything, their manager is similar to them, their players are cheaters and divers... they just paid off debts for their stadium, so they will likely become the next club who will buy trophies and will be loved by everyone, I would call them mini version of Man Utd
Aston Villa = they are going absolutely nowhere with their poor style football and poor squad, have racist and usually unfriendly fans, usually think they are bigger than they ar
Stoke = for long years known in the whole planet for their amazingly poor style of football, cheating, fans are total assholes - they are singing songs about Munich air disaster and go to matches looking for trouble, they are stuck in 1970s
Tottenham = their fans are usually quite arrogant, they are trying to buy so many players every year and try to show the world that they are a big club as well, and because of that they are usually kicking out their managers a lot... they are building a new stadium which will help them a lot to become true member of media likable and created "Sky Sports' Big 6", but at all, I would consider them as an o.k. club for me.

Everton = you just fell in love with them, if you give them a chance - 2 of my mates gave them one and they are similarly addicated Evertonians as me now... We are a club with such an amazing history full of incredible moments and traditions, we are a club which brought to football a lot of new things (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-firsts/), we have incredible home and away fans (one of the best in the league), we are usually doing things in our own "Everton way". Our owner and chairman is a big Evertonian, our manager is a super-likable guy with who you will fall in love in a few minutes after you will listen or read a few words from him. We have mainly likeable (from neutral point of view) and special squad of players, with no divers or cheaters, we are playing nice football full of passing, if you put together Spanish style and English style, you got something like Everton style. We have an old stadium who just will give you a feeling people go there to enjoy watching football, we have likeable prices of tickets. We are usually hated by media, who usually think we are a club who is lucky that exists. We don't have a lot of money, but we are trying to compete in this hard times for fans, where money can buy you almost everything. We are a friendly club who is doing a lot of special thing for community in Liverpool (try to look after all the things we have done for Liverpool FC with Hillsborough tragedy) and all-around the world as well (just look for the name of Richard Wee). Unlikeable things about us? Well, it is not "cool" to be our fan for an international fan, as it is ''cool'' to be a fan of a "Sky Sports' Big 6" club. But that seems not to be a problem for you... Try to give us a chance, watch a game... and you will probably enjoy hearing a song like this even on your TV, as our fans are so loud...

 

[mezzrow]

Damn, the more I read about the case, the worse it gets. Because he was acquitted, Gerrard was reimbursed £311,000 in legal fees.

How the f*** does a simple case of assault cost £311,000 in legal costs? And how can someone that wealthy be so shameless as to abuse a system designed to help those with limited financial means get adequate legal representation?

Disgusting [Poor language removed]. I'm embarrassed I ever thought highly of him.

We're glad to bring you up to speed, PF. Basically, you'll know before long if you're Evertonian or not. If you can help it, you'll choose another club. If you were born Evertonian, you won't. It's really about that simple. Good thread, and some interesting perspective here.

Logic really doesn't much enter into it. It's a affair of the heart.

 

[kithnou]

I am a Czech Evertonian. In my honest opinon, based on your thoughts, you should decide between Everton and Spurs
Liverpool = defending of Suarez, deluded and racist fans, biased love from media and refs, their international fans are absolute bandwagoners who want to support a club who mainly wins and is so "cool" in everything thankfully to that bias from media
Man Utd = a lot of similar things to Liverpool, but mainly they as a club are the biggest factory of money, they are literally just buying trophies, because they have so much money from all these bandwagon companies and fans who support them only because they win...
Arsenal = their fans are usually whiners who complain about everything, their manager is similar to them, their players are cheaters and divers... they just paid off debts for their stadium, so they will likely become the next club who will buy trophies and will be loved by everyone, I would call them mini version of Man Utd
Aston Villa = they are going absolutely nowhere with their poor style football and poor squad, have racist and usually unfriendly fans, usually think they are bigger than they ar
Stoke = for long years known in the whole planet for their amazingly poor style of football, cheating, fans are total assholes - they are singing songs about Munich air disaster and go to matches looking for trouble, they are stuck in 1970s
Tottenham = their fans are usually quite arrogant, they are trying to buy so many players every year and try to show the world that they are a big club as well, and because of that they are usually kicking out their managers a lot... they are building a new stadium which will help them a lot to become true member of media likable and created "Sky Sports' Big 6", but at all, I would consider them as an o.k. club for me.

Everton = you just fell in love with them, if you give them a chance - 2 of my mates gave them one and they are similarly addicated Evertonians as me now... We are a club with such an amazing history full of incredible moments and traditions, we are a club which brought to football a lot of new things (http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-firsts/), we have incredible home and away fans (one of the best in the league), we are usually doing things in our own "Everton way". Our owner and chairman is a big Evertonian, our manager is a super-likable guy with who you will fall in love in a few minutes after you will listen or read a few words from him. We have mainly likeable (from neutral point of view) and special squad of players, with no divers or cheaters, we are playing nice football full of passing, if you put together Spanish style and English style, you got something like Everton style. We have an old stadium who just will give you a feeling people go there to enjoy watching football, we have likeable prices of tickets. We are usually hated by media, who usually think we are a club who is lucky that exists. We don't have a lot of money, but we are trying to compete in this hard times for fans, where money can buy you almost everything. We are a friendly club who is doing a lot of special thing for community in Liverpool (try to look after all the things we have done for Liverpool FC with Hillsborough tragedy) and all-around the world as well (just look for the name of Richard Wee). Unlikeable things about us? Well, it is not "cool" to be our fan for an international fan, as it is ''cool'' to be a fan of a "Sky Sports' Big 6" club. But that seems not to be a problem for you... Try to give us a chance, watch a game... and you will probably enjoy hearing a song like this even on your TV, as our fans are so loud...

Great post this