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Catfish Blues said:
I think you're overstating things a bit there Andy.

Gomes signed on the 25th June so that should be in the accounts

See https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48764807

Lossl was on a free, and though I'd expect them to be more than Robles ( who he replaced ) I can't see his wages being huge.

Gueye going out probably pretty much balanced Gbamin coming in, so that leaves Iwobi and Delph as being extra outgoings financially from the Summer, which aren't in the accounts just published. Lookman and Vlasic going out would have offset some of the transfer fees for Iwobi and Delph, but they'll doubtless be on higher wages.


edit : I forget about Onyekuru going out, so, along with Lookman and Vlasic, that probably pretty much balances the fees for Delph and Iwobi - still leaves a wage difference though
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We got 3 million for McCarthy too but You also forgot the 24 million we spent on Kean so spend of about 20 million on transfers.
 

There were articles about the AGM that Brands had a chart showing 2 players for each position except CB. I have a question....I presume this means the chart had 4 strikers 3 of which would be DCL, Richarlison and Kean. Tosun had left so what would be the point of him being on the chart. Who was the 4th striker? Was it Walcott as well as Walcott being a RW?
 
ToothPlucker said:
There were articles about the AGM that Brands had a chart showing 2 players for each position except CB. I have a question....I presume this means the chart had 4 strikers 3 of which would be DCL, Richarlison and Kean. Tosun had left so what would be the point of him being on the chart. Who was the 4th striker? Was it Walcott as well as Walcott being a RW?
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Our sweet Prince
How quickly they forget your name
 

ToothPlucker said:
There were articles about the AGM that Brands had a chart showing 2 players for each position except CB. I have a question....I presume this means the chart had 4 strikers 3 of which would be DCL, Richarlison and Kean. Tosun had left so what would be the point of him being on the chart. Who was the 4th striker? Was it Walcott as well as Walcott being a RW?
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Niasse.... believe it or not he's still at the club.
 
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Catfish Blues said:
I think you're overstating things a bit there Andy.

Gomes signed on the 25th June so that should be in the accounts

See https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48764807

Lossl was on a free, and though I'd expect them to be more than Robles ( who he replaced ) I can't see his wages being huge.

Gueye going out probably pretty much balanced Gbamin coming in, so that leaves Iwobi and Delph as being extra outgoings financially from the Summer, which aren't in the accounts just published. Lookman and Vlasic going out would have offset some of the transfer fees for Iwobi and Delph, but they'll doubtless be on higher wages.


edit : I forget about Onyekuru going out, so, along with Lookman and Vlasic, that probably pretty much balances the fees for Delph and Iwobi - still leaves a wage difference though
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I'm sure it was Brands who said that the purchase of Gomes wasn't included in the 18/19 accounts.
Lossl is allegedly (stresses allegedly) on significantly more than Robles was.
 
catcherintherye said:
Well what we know, is a company he is part of have given Everton money, possibly Moshiri is funnelling away the cash with Skoch's knowledge though it seems unlikely to me (and as yet we have no evidence for it).
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Why not just stick to what we know and is in the public domain. Moshiri is the principal owner of Everton. He clearly wants to invest in the Club but his hands are tied by FFP. Again sticking to what we know a company part owned by Moshiri has made significant deals with Everton. Anything else is just guesswork

catcherintherye said:
It is widely reported, by the most influential sources in this area (Forbes for one) that a knowledge of the levels of wealth Moshiri and Usmanov have is very hard to calculate, they only know about aspects of the their portfolio and a lot of the estimates are quite cautious. That is not nonsense, it's reported from reputable sources.
Any historical understanding of the Russian state, particularly post 1990 would also indicate the likelihood that individuals close to it likely have wealth far beyond whats publicly reported. Do a little research on Putin for example. It's not certain, and I didn't say it was certain, I just believe it to be likely.
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I love the way you use Forbes to back up your point but continually label Usmanov as the richest man in Russia, when Forbes clearly state he isn't. You then compound that error by adding in a bit of waffle and innuendo regarding Putin. Well if your conspiracy theory is correct then surely Putin is the richest man in Russia.

catcherintherye said:
I did address your point on Skoch and football. I don't believe most people who invest in most things have to have an interest in it to do so. They have a multitude of reasons. Some of them for their own enjoyment (which Skoch wouldn't get) but more of them about what comes with such an investment. I am not going to repeat in detail all the different options that come with this as it's pretty clear to see through the numerous posts I've made on this thread over a 2 year period. There are plenty of reasons other than football as to why he would want to invest. As a business/collective USM have a big interest in football, and now a big commercial interest in Everton. I have no idea of his personal taste for football, but I know the above is true.
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If the USM collective as you amusingly call it have a big interest in Football then why wasn't it USM who held shares in Arsenal. It wasn't it was Moshiri and Usmanov as individuals. Which shows your willingness to throw Skoch in to the pot and then add up the whole assets of USM as basically being at the behest of Everton as a bit daft.


catcherintherye said:
I mean this politely, but it continually looks as if the goal posts get moved re Usmanov. He will never leave Arsenal. He will invest in Charlton. He will invest in Arsenal. He will never give a penny to Everton. He will never sponsor us anymore. He will never up his sponsorship. All of them proven categorically wrong. Any attempt to try and make out Skoch won't get involved on the basis that he may or may not like football will also fall down. Or it truth it has fallen down, as he's already invested.
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Please explain to me why Usmanov hasn't formally invested in the Club.
 
gwladysnight said:
Why not just stick to what we know and is in the public domain. Moshiri is the principal owner of Everton. He clearly wants to invest in the Club but his hands are tied by FFP. Again sticking to what we know a company part owned by Moshiri has made significant deals with Everton. Anything else is just guesswork



I love the way you use Forbes to back up your point but continually label Usmanov as the richest man in Russia, when Forbes clearly state he isn't. You then compound that error by adding in a bit of waffle and innuendo regarding Putin. Well if your conspiracy theory is correct then surely Putin is the richest man in Russia.



If the USM collective as you amusingly call it have a big interest in Football then why wasn't it USM who held shares in Arsenal. It wasn't it was Moshiri and Usmanov as individuals. Which shows your willingness to throw Skoch in to the pot and then add up the whole assets of USM as basically being at the behest of Everton as a bit daft.




Please explain to me why Usmanov hasn't formally invested in the Club.
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You and Roger St Ringpiece 1878 should really hook up.
you would have an awful lot in common
 

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