Ademola Lookman

[jackyboy]

Don’t know if this has been discussed elsewhere but heard a rumour that Liverpool are pulling the strings in the background. They are using Leipzig to get Lookman out of Everton. Close links between Liverpool and Leipzig with the German connection and sale of Keita. It does seem nonsense to think that Lookman would be seeking a move to Germany full-time. More likely that somebody has got to him and his agent and they are manipulating things to get the move they want. If it was anyone else in the league who wanted him they would just make an offer to us but Liverpool know we wouldn’t sell directly to them. So when he goes to Leipzig put your money on him turning up at Liverpool in 12 months – nice £5 m-£10 m profit for Leipzig so they’re happy and Liverpool get the player they want relatively cheaply.

Goodnight lads.

 

[Bob Elstone]

The Liverpool connection is bonkers. Whoever wrote that is living in a strange and very dark place!

 

[Rugby Toffee]

Convenient injury for last night.

 

[4737carlin]

The funny thing about the Liverpool wanting Lookman thing is he is barley good enough to play for us, as if they are going to want him

 

[everton1953]

Is he barely good enough for us?

 

[Bluelladevil]

How is the Keita deal thinking two steps ahead? They just signed him and left him there for another season to develop.

Furthermore playing in Germany or England doesn’t make a difference to playing for the national team. Sancho chose Germany and he’s miles better than Lookman.

I don't see many established international players being bought and then staying another club for a year. He has 28 caps for his country – don't think he was left there so he could "develop". He has 140 appearances in professional football before he went to Liverpool.

Last year in the Bundesliga:

Lookman: 11 appearances, 5 goals, 3 assists
Sancho: 13 appearances, 1 goal, 4 assists

 

[Nymzee]

I don't see many established international players being bought and then staying another club for a year. He has 28 caps for his country – don't think he was left there so he could "develop". He has 140 appearances in professional football before he went to Liverpool.

Last year in the Bundesliga:

Lookman: 11 appearances, 5 goals, 3 assists
Sancho: 13 appearances, 1 goal, 4 assists

Mate he plays for Guinea.

 

[catcherintherye]

I don't know anything about difficult negotiations between Leipzig and Liverpool. But Liverpool are thinking two steps ahead all the time at the moment. Look at the Keita deal. I think it's unlikely that a young player like Lookman is going to acting up of his own accord. Seems a very quiet young man to me, certainly doesn't appear 'big' or even 'pig' headed. Therefore it's likely that he would be very heavily influenced by his agent. Agents are looking for the next move for their player all the time so that they can have another payday as soon as possible – just look at the agents fees that are paid when new players are signed. If it is the agent influencing him then highly likely agent is speaking to other clubs already, particularly clubs in England. I can't imagine why a player like Lookman would want to play in Germany – he is regarded as one of the best young England talents and it's less likely he will get England recognition if he is in Germany. It doesn't make sense for him to go there. If he wants to prove himself, why not just stay in the premiership and show how good you are. Therefore any move to Germany must be short-term. If this move to Leipzig is a stepping stone on a move somewhere else then who is it that Lookman is hoping to play for?

It's widely reported the negotiations between Rangnick and Liverpool were strained. Rang nick is a ruthless operator and I have to say I'd be very surprised to see him doing anyone a favour, never mind Liverpool.

I don't doubt the lad if influenced by his agent. I'm not sure what that has to do with a conspiracy between Liverpool/Leipzig though. 2+2 don't equal 23.

Likewise it seems very clear why the player would want to play in Germany, it's probably the best league in the world for giving young players an opportunity with a high emphasis from top to bottom about development of young players and coaching. You've seen lots of young players make the move and more will follow. Add in Leipzig are very much at the vanguard of this, and Lookman clearly had a positive time on loan there, an opportunity to play in European competition and you can see why this would be appealing.

Finally I have little doubt as to why Liverpool would want to buy him. Ultimately every player has a price and I suspect Lookman's will be too high for Liverpool.

 

[blue_order]

do you know something that we don't, please share?

He's rumoured to be leaving mate, I think that's what 80% of this thread is about.

 

[Nymzee]

Wonder how many pages we have to go back to actually discuss him for his performance?

200-odd pages talking parceltongue.

 

[KaiserEFC]

The bites this lad has got, excellent work

 

[Toffeeslam]

It all depends if RB Lipzeig give up the Reddeis, if they can stump up anything above £27m I reckon will accept and he will be off.

In keeping with this thread if they have the cheese then the rat is gone.

Ahem I’ll get me coat

 

[carolinablue232]

Lukaku wanting to leave after handing a ton of goals over four seasons and Barkley hounded out the door by Koeman cant be compared with some no mark from Charlton who played a handful of games for Everton and then got a titty-lip because he cant go back to Germany to resume his super-sub role.

How exactly was Barkley hounded out when he made 36 appearances in 38 premier league games in Koeman’s full season? What Ross did, essentially costing the club 20m is far worse than what Mola may or may not be doing.

 

[4737carlin]

It all depends if RB Lipzeig give up the Reddeis, if they can stump up anything above £27m I reckon will accept and he will be off.

In keeping with this thread if they have the cheese then the rat is gone.

Ahem I’ll get me coat

If we can get 27m + a clause or two its one of the best bits of outward business we have done this window

 

[GwladysBlue]

Be a blow to lose him this late in the window.