A 5year Plan

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ToffeeBlueNose

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I want to know what fans realistically want from Everton FC over say the next 5years?

In your mind what would be progress? What would you be happy with and where do you think we should be aiming for?

The reason I ask is all the fans who simply aren't interested in winning Cups anymore. Fans who think the league Cup and Europa League are not worth our time and effort and finishing 4th is the golden chalice.

Let's be honest 5 seasons isn't a long time ahead in football but on the other hand a lot can change also.

For me getting 4th might, just might see us getting into the CL proper but can you seriously believe that we have any chance in hell of winning the thing without a Sheik taking over in the next 10 years never mind 5.

For me I would be happy if we are constantly closing the gap on the sky 6 breaking into it every season and in 5 years from now be looked at as a club that is a force to be reckoned with.

I want to win the league but it's highly improbable at the moment. Never say never though as who knows what's around the corner. If the league is unattainable then I want the next best thing Silverware in our trophy cabinet something to be proud about again.

I couldn't care less if it's the League cup, FA cup or Europa league as these are all Cups that our club is more than capable of challenging for.

Other than a super rich guy taking over these are my realistic expectations for Everton in the next 5 years, beyond that who knows. Man Utd went 26 years without a League title but then got a lucky break as our European ban finished and the Sky money started rolling in.

Who is to say Everton can't hit the heights again...I can dream can't I and I do.
 

ToffeeBlueNose said:

The reason I ask is all the fans who simply aren't interested in winning Cups anymore. Fans who think the league Cup and Europa League are not worth our time and effort and finishing 4th is the golden chalice.
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Wum or do you seriously think fans are not interested in winning cups?
 
For me we need to develop a habit and hunger for winning.

If we can stay around the top 7/8 or slightly better and start to win cups that would represent success for me over the next five years. At least 2 or 3 cups over the next five years is what I think we should be looking at and is realistic.

Also, TBF people are always asked "4th or a cup" or some variation of it. I doubt many wouldn't go nuts for a cup.
 
We have been here before

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/3103009/Moyes-reveals-five-year-plan

Moyes told The Guardian: "It would be unforgivable if it fell apart now.

"We cannot slip away now and if we want to challenge then we have to be in there (signing top players). I am not going to give up, I am going to keep challenging the clubs around us and above us.

"We are coming to a stage now at Everton where we need to decide what we are going to go and challenge if we can, although spending loads of cash doesn't guarantee anything.

"We have seen some clubs spending millions this season to try and be champions and it has not worked for them, but I think you can see that the better players tend to cost more money," he said, adding record £11 million signing Aiyegbeni Yakubu has shown that.

"He has come up with the goals for us.

"I have to keep forcing the issue and keep advising the club in what I think is the right way to go. When I came here I had a five-year plan for us to be better at Everton.

"I have now got a plan for the next five years that would see us become a regular Champions League club."

Clubs such as Manchester City and Aston Villa have intensified the fight for Champions League qualification, but Moyes believes in the support he receives from Everton chairman Bill Kenwright.
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He added: "All those clubs around us will catch up if we don't stay ahead of the game.

"What some clubs are doing now is not necessarily putting foundations in place but spending to get a quicker result. The next stage for us is to raise our level and the standard of player and that has cost implications, but I am confident in Bill. You would have to compliment him on how he has moved this club on."

As well as spending to attract top players, Moyes also wants Everton to be competing with the better teams in the scouting arena.

He said: "I see myself as being here for another five years. This is a crucial time but the most crucial thing is the first team keep playing well. That's my job and the other parts are down to the board.

"I want a scouting system as good as Manchester United's and Arsenal's. The plan for me does not just include money for first-team players, it is how we make Everton bigger and better."


this was back in 2008, meaninig the 5 years is up at the end of the season along with his contract
 

steken1 said:
For me we need to develop a habit and hunger for winning.

If we can stay around the top 7/8 or slightly better and start to win cups that would represent success for me over the next five years. At least 2 or 3 cups over the next five years is what I think we should be looking at and is realistic.

Also, TBF people are always asked "4th or a cup" or some variation of it. I doubt many wouldn't go nuts for a cup.
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This is more or less what I think is achievable, 2 or 3 cups in the next 5years would be a great bonus for the fans finishing 4th guarantees nothing.

dixie7 said:
We have been here before

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11671/3103009/Moyes-reveals-five-year-plan

Moyes told The Guardian: "It would be unforgivable if it fell apart now.

"We cannot slip away now and if we want to challenge then we have to be in there (signing top players). I am not going to give up, I am going to keep challenging the clubs around us and above us.

"We are coming to a stage now at Everton where we need to decide what we are going to go and challenge if we can, although spending loads of cash doesn't guarantee anything.

"We have seen some clubs spending millions this season to try and be champions and it has not worked for them, but I think you can see that the better players tend to cost more money," he said, adding record £11 million signing Aiyegbeni Yakubu has shown that.

"He has come up with the goals for us.

"I have to keep forcing the issue and keep advising the club in what I think is the right way to go. When I came here I had a five-year plan for us to be better at Everton.

"I have now got a plan for the next five years that would see us become a regular Champions League club."

Clubs such as Manchester City and Aston Villa have intensified the fight for Champions League qualification, but Moyes believes in the support he receives from Everton chairman Bill Kenwright.
Ahead

He added: "All those clubs around us will catch up if we don't stay ahead of the game.

"What some clubs are doing now is not necessarily putting foundations in place but spending to get a quicker result. The next stage for us is to raise our level and the standard of player and that has cost implications, but I am confident in Bill. You would have to compliment him on how he has moved this club on."

As well as spending to attract top players, Moyes also wants Everton to be competing with the better teams in the scouting arena.

He said: "I see myself as being here for another five years. This is a crucial time but the most crucial thing is the first team keep playing well. That's my job and the other parts are down to the board.

"I want a scouting system as good as Manchester United's and Arsenal's. The plan for me does not just include money for first-team players, it is how we make Everton bigger and better."


this was back in 2008, meaninig the 5 years is up at the end of the season along with his contract
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I wanted to know what the fans want mate not a Dave Moyes copy and paste.
 

For this season we need to go on a good FA cup run and finish at the lowest 6th for this season to be regarded even remotely successful. Hopefully this will have us qualify for Europe next season and maybe help us keep our best players, i.e. Baines, Fellaini and possibly others. As for next season onwards we need to consistently finish in the top 6 and challenge for higher with a domestic cup or 2 thrown in on the way.

Considering our current team set up and with new names floating around (Vadis etc) I don't see why this isn't realistic.
 

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