it makes a mockery of the competition if final placings are decided on anything other than on field performances.
Moderatelywarmwater
Player Valuation: £10m
I’m not sure I totally understand, but heres my attempt….!
Moshiri leant the club money at 0% for the stadium build. He the tried to claim interest on the loans and put that against PSR.
As far as I can work out, Moshiri tried to claim at the hearing that even though he loaned the money at zero % for stadium loans, the money actually came from the R&M and Metro bank loans so he could claim them for PSR as they were part of the stadium build cost. Moshiri claimed that if there had been no stadium build then he’d have paid the interest on these loans (as he had done in the past?) anyway, so they should go against PSR.
the problem is, that they only had Moshiris word for this and the paperwork on the loans didn’t back him up.
or something
Sounds close enough to me.
It would seem @gwladysnight accepted he had the inferior argument and politely left the forum. We need more of this decorum please.
I’d understand if the issues actually affected the game, ie fielding ineligible players or dodgy dealing but interest on loans on the ground ffs
bluenorthwarrior
Player Valuation: £8m
4.5 stands out to me 'properly apply their minds to the facts of the case'.
The out of hand dismissal of some of the mitigation (admittedly not all as some was a stretch to say the least) suggests minds were not applied to the facts and the completely unforecastable context.
Moderatelywarmwater
Player Valuation: £10m
Hmm, not convinced by that one. Think 4.4 is the only one that there is even a whiff of a chance of.
When Moshiri tried to claim that he’d planned for a sixth place finish as one of his mitigations, it all seemed a bit silly.
neil999
Player Valuation: £80m
Shame to see you go as well, but prob the right decision
I think legally we could argue bad faith due to the "independent" commission applying the same sanction that The Premier League "set" at the start.
What is bad faith in the UK law?
Bad faith conduct could include behaviour which is seen as commercially unacceptable, improper or unconscionable, but which is not actually dishonest. So, a failure to act in good faith (or not to act in bad faith) does not necessarily require fraud or other dishonesty.
Oh I see, there is another layer to it then. I think maybe I mixed it up and it is CAS abitration teams agreed not to involve and it remains within a self regulating PL which would align with the graph
so we’re still being victimised!
No Matty, we are being punished for our crimes.
ForeverEverton
Player Valuation: £50m
It isn`t that simple but with costs going up all the time imagine pausing then coming back to it 2 years later, the stadium costs could go up over another £100m.
Plus demobilisation, remobilisation and abortion costs wouldn`t be factored in to any build and could be 10s of millions extra aswell.
Haydn
Player Valuation: £15m
That was my understanding too, along with a load of gobbledegook reasoning.
The club didn’t borrow the money for the stadium coz the Mosh sorted it. We did borrow money to run the club ‘tho. So, if the Mosh hadn’t weighed out to pay for the stadium, those loans we took to run the club would have gone to pay for the stadium. So, we’re claiming for the interest we would have paid on those loans we didn’t take out.
Happy to be corrected if someone has a more logical take on it ?
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