6 + 2 Point Deductions

The club is in a mess because of Moshiri and the board (which has left). They should be the ones being blamed and getting punished. Not the club/fans. So he is right.

Your post goes from having a go at Carragher for blaming Moshiri/board, to then complaining that it’s fine for Chelsea to blame their previous owners and get away with no punishment as a club/fan base but not for us. If he is blaming the owner/board, then surely you are in agreement?

I’m no Carragher fan but he has spoken about the injustice of the points deduction several times.
But there is always the caveat 'given that City have not been punished'. I really don't think he cares about our punishment. He is just using it as leverage to push for City to get hammered.
 

The club is in a mess because of Moshiri and the board (which has left). They should be the ones being blamed and getting punished. Not the club/fans. So he is right.

Your post goes from having a go at Carragher for blaming Moshiri/board, to then complaining that it’s fine for Chelsea to blame their previous owners and get away with no punishment as a club/fan base but not for us. If he is blaming the owner/board, then surely you are in agreement?

I’m no Carragher fan but he has spoken about the injustice of the points deduction several times.
Ive had this discussion with others before. Yes he has spoken about the points deduction, but his agenda is to get City punished end of. He hates it that they have been succesful at the rs expence. I watched him a few times on Gary Nevilles stick to football, and the times he brings City into it is unreal.
 
Does anyone know how they work out the points deduction? If we lost 10 points for £20 million overspend, does that mean a £40 million overspend will be 20 points (for example)? I'm not sure the FA really know the answer to be honest but thought I'd ask.
 
I see Carragher has piped up with his usual “blame morishi” distraction.

He is absolutely culpable in the PL cover up on this and part of their media machine through Sky. The club shouldn’t entertain this whopper and it’s a disgrace we have him either in the studio or on commentary during our games especially as he thinks he’s some RS special reporter on all things Everton. Don’t give a toss he claims he supported us as a boy, he’s a RS and as bad as all of them at the cartel.

Blaming owners and board members who have left does nothing and doesn’t change the fact the club remains to be in a mess that we the fans have to deal with, yes mosh is still here but he checked out long ago.

Why is it fine for Chelsea to get away with blaming “sins of the past” and “don’t punish the fans” yet we should take all punishment that we get?

The guy is an absolute fraud and along with Neville and the rest of them, part of the whole problem with football
The fact he is still employed by Sky after spitting at people in the ‘woke’ era we all live in reflects poorly on his employers as badly as him.

Best ignored.
 

I was labouring under the impression that FFP was there to prevent clubs from buying entire squads of players in the style of computer games. In doing so rewarding good coaching and good recruitment.

The charge against us is totally absurd:
- In the last 5 years we're amongst the lowest net spend on transfers.
- We are upgrading an ancient Stadium. 1. This gives us the additional, stable revenue to further compete with the revenues of others, and is surely a responsible and sustainable way of securing long-term financial health; and 2. this will be a huge asset for the league, improving the match day experience experience but also enabling the hosting of major finals and international fixtures at a premier league stadium.
- The loss of revenue can be accounted for by I) sanctions against an investor due to international war; and II) increased BoE interest rates. In any other walk of life, typical financial boundaries are amended to account for these macro economic challenges.

Horrendous that the club are continuing to be put under such scrutiny, the premier league are corrupt and incompetent.

Contrast that with the Forest charge. Those geezers have bought 31 new players in the last 18 months. I don't buy people saying that the charge against them is unjust- "they are being penalised for simply trying to compete". BS. You can't just buy your way to competition, you've got to be well coached with long-term planning. FFP is there precisely to prevent the likes of Forest splashing their way to premier league survival at the expense of well run and well coached clubs like Burnley, Luton, or Southampton. Take the ten points off us an give it to them.

And don't get me started on Chelsea.
 
I see Carragher has piped up with his usual “blame morishi” distraction.

He is absolutely culpable in the PL cover up on this and part of their media machine through Sky. The club shouldn’t entertain this whopper and it’s a disgrace we have him either in the studio or on commentary during our games especially as he thinks he’s some RS special reporter on all things Everton. Don’t give a toss he claims he supported us as a boy, he’s a RS and as bad as all of them at the cartel.

Blaming owners and board members who have left does nothing and doesn’t change the fact the club remains to be in a mess that we the fans have to deal with, yes mosh is still here but he checked out long ago.

Why is it fine for Chelsea to get away with blaming “sins of the past” and “don’t punish the fans” yet we should take all punishment that we get?

The guy is an absolute fraud and along with Neville and the rest of them, part of the whole problem with football
He's a Liverpool fan writing in a Tory newspaper from a position as the voice of a broadcaster that benefits heavily from the PL brand.

Why anyone gives him any credibility on Everton matters is baffling.
 
Does anyone know how they work out the points deduction? If we lost 10 points for £20 million overspend, does that mean a £40 million overspend will be 20 points (for example)? I'm not sure the FA really know the answer to be honest but thought I'd ask.
Round number influenced by the Premier League's interference I reckon. Nobody's sure because they made no attempt whatsoever to justify it.
 
Spitty proper deflected the jist of the committee meeting and had a go at the chair for her dig and line about “you don’t know what you’re doing!”on x.

He may have said supportive stuff in the past but he was miles off yesterday, and has potentially been muzzled by sly sports.

Shame he wasn’t similarly muzzled when grocking over that young girl from his car.
They all have. The initial narrative was how much of an injustice the punishment was, but they’ve since been told which side their bread is buttered, and been told to place all blame onto the club and not highlight the failings of the process.
 

But there is always the caveat 'given that City have not been punished'. I really don't think he cares about our punishment. He is just using it as leverage to push for City to get hammered.
Absolutely this. He isn't the only pundit/journo with this agenda either, unquestionably.
 
Does anyone know how they work out the points deduction? If we lost 10 points for £20 million overspend, does that mean a £40 million overspend will be 20 points (for example)? I'm not sure the FA really know the answer to be honest but thought I'd ask.
Don't think anyone really knows mate,
According to the Premier league the appeal panel is independent (don't laugh) and they make the decision.
If you use the calculations the prem are supposed to want using
It's a maximum of 12 pionts per breach.
Using that one we would have got 9 pionts instead of 10?
But it's all cloak and dagger because it's never been published or as far as I know voted on.
Hence the anger at the process ,
The first anybody was aware of the formula was after Everton had been summoned to the Premier league panel.
They made the rule to fit there agenda, not to be overseen by the new body the government was after.
It wasn't in place before Everton went to the panel, and the likes of Garragher seem to conveniently forget that.
Everton at no piont knew they were in danger of a ten piont section because it didn't exist before they were brought before the panel.
And don't forget we had been putting every bit of are spending through the Premier league for a couple of years, supposed to have told us to sell players we wanted to keep, and if rumours are correct stopped us sighing 4 players which could have got us up the league,
couldn't buy players ect unless they said so
So in answer to your question as I said nobody really knows.
 
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Does anyone know how they work out the points deduction? If we lost 10 points for £20 million overspend, does that mean a £40 million overspend will be 20 points (for example)? I'm not sure the FA really know the answer to be honest but thought I'd ask.
There is nothing other than how the 'Independent' committee feel on the day. They don't have to explain their sanction, nor do they have a guidance to follow.

If two separate IC's sat for us and Forest, they could genuinely, without legal recourse, give Forest a £1m fine, and us another 10 points.
 
Ive had this discussion with others before. Yes he has spoken about the points deduction, but his agenda is to get City punished end of. He hates it that they have been succesful at the rs expence. I watched him a few times on Gary Nevilles stick to football, and the times he brings City into it is unreal.
If it wasn't for City the RS would have been the dominant team for the past half a dozen seasons. That's gotta sting for him.
 

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