6 + 2 Point Deductions

[HalfTimeSayers]

We wouldn;t have changed our team setup/tactics on the day of a game because of any information like this.

Mindset? Confidence? They were bricking it, hence the tentative crap inaccurate passing, then offloading responsibility to Pickford and Tarky to play it forward. That wasn’t a game plan, that was players to scared to be the one to give it away. Credit to Onana for going on and looking forwards.

 

[Blue Willy]

Blag account?

 

[Victus]

Why? I’m saying if the club knew we had 10 points back as the poster claimed, why would we have played cautious terrified football with Young instead of Dobbin etc. Give Doucs more rest. That was a manager and team petrified of losing and staying 18th, not a team reeling in 11th

What if they learnt after it?

 

[blulouie]

If we got informed yesterday, there would be more leaks all over the place, especially from us.

There was never going to be any leaks after the last time ( hence Zeigler having a hissy )
That Super Silk would have stamped that out the minute he took the case on.

It's wait for the official announcement & nothing else.

 

[MikeH72]

What if they learnt after it?

That doesn’t fit his doom agenda.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Just announce the decision and move on to the new charges against us and Forest. No need to drag it out this long, unfair on us and the teams around us affected by it.

 

[Swagger]

Dyche has always played the same way regardless of league position. Same as Moyes. Same as Allardyce. Same as Pullis.

It's in their DNA , it's what they do.

I agree to a certain extent but if you look at the home games at the start of this season we applied more pressure and created a load of good chances but failed to score. I don't recall Allardyche creating countless chances in many games. I'm not claiming it would have been amazing football on the deck but it would not have been the complete dross we put out last night until the final 15 mins. The worry about losing outweighed the desire to win. If you sit on 29 points then the desire to win outweighs the worry of losing which gives players far more confidence and belief in executing.

 

[trueblue84]

This is just a Twitter rumour I saw, so please don't take this as anything ITK, but I saw someone say that we argued that Gylfi was found innocent in his case and, therefore, wrongly suspended, which led to the loss of the transfer fee. I never considered that he was never found guilty, which is a good argument.

By the way, there is no smoke without fire, and Gylfi probably still was a dirty bugger.

https://twitter.com/StattoSuper

He's made his account public again after sigurdsson was cleared. You could always ask him what sigurdsson's stats are for slotting 15 year old brasses.

 

[MikeH72]

I agree to a certain extent but if you look at the home games at the start of this season we applied more pressure and created a load of good chances but failed to score. I don't recall Allardyche creating countless chances in many games. I'm not claiming it would have been amazing football on the deck but it would not have been the complete dross we put out last night until the final 15 mins. The worry about losing outweighed the desire to win. If you sit on 29 points then the desire to win outweighs the worry of losing which gives players far more confidence and belief in executing.

How does it? Surely the deeper you are in the relegation mix, the more you require wins??

 

[Titus Bramble]

I agree to a certain extent but if you look at the home games at the start of this season we applied more pressure and created a load of good chances but failed to score. I don't recall Allardyche creating countless chances in many games. I'm not claiming it would have been amazing football on the deck but it would not have been the complete dross we put out last night until the final 15 mins. The worry about losing outweighed the desire to win. If you sit on 29 points then the desire to win outweighs the worry of losing which gives players far more confidence and belief in executing.

Even last night we created more than enough good chances to win the game.

 

[BNJ1878]

I Agree they are changing the format before Next season starts so if the second charge has not been sorted
By the end of this season there is a chance it will be scrapped ???

It will 100% be sorted by the end of the season (subject to appeal)

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Dyche has always played the same way regardless of league position. Same as Moyes. Same as Allardyce. Same as Pullis.

It's in their DNA , it's what they do.

Astonishingly harsh to put Moyes into that list.

For all his flaws, we played VASTLY better football under Moyes than any team has ever played under any of those other managers.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

This is just a Twitter rumour I saw, so please don't take this as anything ITK, but I saw someone say that we argued that Gylfi was found innocent in his case and, therefore, wrongly suspended, which led to the loss of the transfer fee. I never considered that he was never found guilty, which is a good argument.

By the way, there is no smoke without fire, and Gylfi probably still was a dirty bugger.

Ey? that was literally part of the original argument re the mitigating circumstances - he was 'Player X' lol

 

[Titus Bramble]

Astonishingly harsh to put Moyes into that list.

For all his flaws, we played VASTLY better football under Moyes than any team has ever played under any of those other managers.

We also had vastly better footballers.

 

[Andy Gray Diving Headers]

Why did they say 'mid February' and then keep everyone hanging on? Regardless of opinions on what punishment Everton deserve, there can be no doubt this has been handled in a shocking manner. And there is the 2nd charge, and appeal, to come yet.