6 + 2 Point Deductions

[thevorpalblade]

Remember folks, it's a three year cycle.

We've only just received our second notification of breach.

Let's brace ourselves for a third charge.

TREBLE JEOPARDY.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

I suppose we were in breach for 21/22 mate - though we’re led to believe that the breach 19.5 mill interest anomaly.…..

I just can’t fathom how we actually lost about 72 mill at a minimum ball park in 22/23 with our sales, has to be the ground or interest on debt.

I know the Esk is a bit discredited these days but after the Gordon sale he estimated we’d be around break even for the year, then he adjusted that to a loss around equal to last year after recalculating interest etc , which from a
PSR point of view would be sufficient with 18-19 coming off. Has it really been twice that?

Unless our limit was lowered due to the owner funding issue but I’m not really a fait with the complexities of that.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Remember folks, it's a three year cycle.

We've only just received our second notification of breach.

Let's brace ourselves for a third charge.

TREBLE JEOPARDY.

But think of all the galvanising.

 

[riddick]

It was the Steve Walsh era that screwed us. Rooney, Sig, Klaassen, Vlasic all signed in 1 window on massive wages. All number 10s, not to mention all slow as hell. Where was the thought process?
We seemingly had Walsh, Koeman and Moshiri all buying who they wanted with no joined up approach. That's where all this stems from

Ok, yes to the general feeling here but Vlasic was a HUGE prospect and made the terrible terrible choice of playing against Everton in the Europa League. Had he not he'd probably gone elsewhere and ACTUALLY developed. Also, not huge fee and DEFINITELY not huge wages for him either.


But yes, Walsh was awful. Still think it's mostly on Brands tho, the bulk of his signings were in the 20m range for massive wages.

 

[hallamblue]

I know the Esk is a bit discredited these days but after the Gordon sale he estimated we’d be around break even for the year, then he adjusted that to a loss around equal to last year after recalculating interest etc , which from a
PSR point of view would be sufficient with 18-19 coming off. Has it really been twice that?

Unless our limit was lowered due to the owner funding issue but I’m not really a fait with the complexities of that.

If he's just estimating based on guesswork he should probably say that rather than pretending he secretly sits on the board but can't tell anyone.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

If he's just estimating based on guesswork he should probably say that rather than pretending he secretly sits on the board but can't tell anyone.

Absolutely. And he is to a large extent guessing as his shifting estimates show. But in the past he’s at least been in the ballpark.

 

[John BCN]

Probably buying Onana for 35m, McNeil for 17m, Maupay for 15m, Garner for 10m. Plus still paying managers off, and a sky high wage bill.

Plus another year of paying interest on the loan they wouldn't allow add backs for? At least another £20m.

 

[John from Bootle]

Ok, yes to the general feeling here but Vlasic was a HUGE prospect and made the terrible terrible choice of playing against Everton in the Europa League. Had he not he'd probably gone elsewhere and ACTUALLY developed. Also, not huge fee and DEFINITELY not huge wages for him either.


But yes, Walsh was awful. Still think it's mostly on Brands tho, the bulk of his signings were in the 20m range for massive wages.

Walsh spent 28m Bolasie, 45m Iceland, 23m Klaasen, 28m Keane, 11m Williams, 27m Tosun, 23m Schneiderlin, 20m Walcott, 11m Rooney....

Sure there's more... Sandro 100l a week...

 

[Tel001]

Always a mug like us paying for them, thinking they are more our level (Schneiderlin, Walcott, Iwobi etc)

Totally agree

 

[blulouie]

Walsh spent 28m Bolasie, 45m Iceland, 23m Klaasen, 28m Keane, 11m Williams, 27m Tosun, 23m Schneiderlin, 20m Walcott, 11m Rooney....

Sure there's more... Sandro 100l a week...

This is were we rolled the dice & came up crap.
The repercussions are where we are now.

 

[John from Bootle]

This is were we rolled the dice & came up crap.
The repercussions are where we are now.

Yep, 206m there in transfer fees alone. Sure there's others I've missed too. and they are just the flops/underwhelming ones I'm listing. He signed Pickford and Gueye.

 

[Swagger]

Doubt you'll find a club in world football ran as bad as Everton in the last 8 years.
First sign for me was ronald koeman. Was watching his signings roll in and thinking wtf is he doing.

It was a shame he didn't sign another #10

 

[Swagger]

Simon Jordon also led us to believe that our case was very strong and the premier leagues was not in about October. I wouldn't listen to a word he says at this point.

Quite.
He always talks about spend not net spend...

 

[pfim]

It was a shame he didn't sign another #10

Or a good one.

 

[Neiler]

Absolutely. And he is to a large extent guessing as his shifting estimates show. But in the past he’s at least been in the ballpark.

So we were close to loosing 90 mill in 21/22, Richarlisons sale brought it down to 40 mill odd.

If we brought in close to 70 mill in Gordon and Kean, that’s a 20 mill loss, + 20 mill for new players, + 10 mill for Lampard and team, + 19.5 mill in the interest issue.

That has us at a loss of 69.5 mill, stull can’t work out how we don’t comply, unless they are counting the 19.5 mill twice - surely we made the adjustment.

There surely has to be another cost we aren’t factoring in, maybe it’s interest, we have borrowed a lo at a high rate.

Loose figures I know mate, but just trying to get my head around it.