3:07pm kick off time for Sunderland vs Everton on April 12th

[BoysInBlue]

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/...es-to-start-late-in-hillsborough-tribute.html

As a mark of respect and remembrance for those who lost their lives as a result of the Hillsborough stadium disaster in April 1989, all Premier League, Football League, Football Conference and FA Cup matches taking place on the weekend of 11-14 April will kick off seven minutes later than originally scheduled.

The match at which the disaster took place, the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, was ended six minutes after kick-off, at 3.06pm.

In the Premier League, Football League, and Football Conference, matches due to kick off at 3pm on Saturday 12 April will now do so at 3.07pm, with the minute before kick-off (3.06pm-3.07pm) having a period of silence observed at all stadiums.

The first FA Cup semi-final on Saturday 12 April between Wigan Athletic and Arsenal will kick off at 5.07pm with a minute of silence between 5.06pm-5.07pm.

The next day, Sunday 13 April, the FA Cup semi-final between Hull City v Sheffield United will begin at 4.07pm with a minute of silence between 4.06pm-4.07pm.

Fixtures kicking off at other times on Friday 11, Saturday 12, Sunday 13 and Monday 14 April will observe the same etiquette with matches starting seven minutes later than originally scheduled.

New kick-off times for matches with Barclays Premier League clubs
Saturday 12 April 2014

FA Cup semi-final
5.07pm Wigan Athletic v Arsenal (minute of silence 5.06pm-5.07pm)

Barclays Premier League
All kick-offs 3.07pm (with a minute's silence 3.06pm-3.07pm at all matches)

Crystal Palace v Aston Villa
Fulham v Norwich City
Southampton v Cardiff City
Stoke City v Newcastle United
Sunderland v Everton
West Bromwich Albion v Tottenham Hotspur

Sunday 13 April

FA Cup semi-final
4.07pm Hull City v Sheffield United (minute of silence 4.06pm-4.07pm)

Barclays Premier League
1.37pm Liverpool v Manchester City (minute of silence 1.36pm-1.37pm)
4.07pm Swansea City v Chelsea (minute of silence 4.06pm-4.07pm)

Very good idea, great tribute.

 

[royalblue66]

Can't believe it's 25 years, was at the Villa that day and then the awful news started to trickle through, yes a terrible day.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Can't believe it's 25 years, was at the Villa that day and then the awful news started to trickle through, yes a terrible day.

Me too mate,was on the back row of the side stand(think it was Witton Lane then)an executive box was right behind me I spent most of the game watching what was happening at Hillsborough on TV screen,if my memory serves me right they announced it at Villa as abandoned due to "crowd trouble" it was only when leaving the ground the true horror began to unfold,horrific day for me and I had no-one directly involved at Hillsborough,cannot even imagine what it was like and still is like for the families.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Can't believe it's 25 years, was at the Villa that day and then the awful news started to trickle through, yes a terrible day.

Yeah me to, there was a kind of feeling of "what have they done now" going round though. Obviously way before mobiles and rolling news so no one knew what had actually happened.

 

[cjmgoodison]

Had a fella in work today (a spurs fan) whinging and moaning that other clubs are being 'punished' by having to kick off 7 minutes late. Utterly disgusting. I had words with him and he just didn't stop. He says it is over acknowledged and is getting silly.

Obviously it is a massive deal. Could've been any club at any time and you wouldn't wish it on any football supporter to be involved in or know anyone involved in. But he just made me wonder what people who don't know the truth actually believe despite the proof now coming out.

I think he is in the minority and obviously in our city it is a massive deal and quite right too. Just wondered if anybody else outside of the city knew any people who didn't see it as this.

 

[Jags]

I live down south, and with being in a generation that did not experience this, or many tragedies similar tbh, it can be hard for me to imagine. My dad has educated me on what this meant though, and it is not hard to see how horrific this must have been for those involved, both directly and indirectly.

When I brought up standing areas in premier league football grounds with some mates, they said that it was to their understanding, that this was the main point against such ideas. They even argued with me that it was 50% the crowd's fault, and 50% the standing area's! It does go to show how behind we are on such matters when we do not feel directly involved though, got me wondering if in fact, not enough has been done?

 

[dholliday]

He says it is over acknowledged and is getting silly.

The Bradford City fire was terrible too yet doesn't get the same level of acknowledgment as Hillsborough, so from that perspective I suppose the Spud has a case.

Personally I like it when commerating the tragic deaths of football fans is a national moment. As we saw in the "ridiculous article" thread in the World forum, there are still some people out there who don't understand what the Hillsborough disaster actually was.

We should really include the Bradford incident in national commemoration moments as well. And Heysel too, to be fair.

 

[richard barton]

The Bradford City fire was terrible too yet doesn't get the same level of acknowledgment as Hillsborough, so from that perspective I suppose the Spud has a case.

Personally I like it when commerating the tragic deaths of football fans is a national moment. As we saw in the "ridiculous article" thread in the World forum, there are still some people out there who don't understand what the Hillsborough disaster actually was.

We should really include the Bradford incident in national commemoration moments as well. And Heysel too, to be fair.

Add Ibrox to that

 

[Azzurri]

The Bradford City fire was terrible too yet doesn't get the same level of acknowledgment as Hillsborough, so from that perspective I suppose the Spud has a case.

Personally I like it when commerating the tragic deaths of football fans is a national moment. As we saw in the "ridiculous article" thread in the World forum, there are still some people out there who don't understand what the Hillsborough disaster actually was.

We should really include the Bradford incident in national commemoration moments as well. And Heysel too, to be fair.

Can you point to the articles where Bradford fans were accused of pissing on and robbing their own dead fans please?

I agree the Bradford fire should be commemorated, but there's a difference there.

 

[dholliday]

Can you point to the articles where Bradford fans were accused of pissing on and robbing their own dead fans please?

I agree the Bradford fire should be commemorated, but there's a difference there.

My point was only about commerating all major tragedies involving the deaths of many football fans. Wasn't aware there was a discussion going on about those horrible accusations.

 

[deipnosophist]

But for the 'luck' of the draw, that disaster might have befallen Everton fans. The events of that day TOTALLY transcend football and its rivalries. So, whilst we may get stuck into Liverpool FC on a constant basis, it is entirely appropriate that respect to those Liverpool fans who died (and their families who also died a little that day), be shown on this 25th 'anniversary'.
Good work by the FA.

 

[bluestevon]

The Bradford City fire was terrible too yet doesn't get the same level of acknowledgment as Hillsborough, so from that perspective I suppose the Spud has a case.

Personally I like it when commerating the tragic deaths of football fans is a national moment. As we saw in the "ridiculous article" thread in the World forum, there are still some people out there who don't understand what the Hillsborough disaster actually was.

We should really include the Bradford incident in national commemoration moments as well. And Heysel too, to be fair.

Completely different incidents mate Hillsborough and Bradford where disasters, caused by safety issues and incompetence off people in charge of those issues, they where truly tragic deaths and deserve a memorial

 

[deipnosophist]

 

[Groucho]

A very nice touch, I feel.

Can you point to the articles where Bradford fans were accused of pissing on and robbing their own dead fans please?

I agree the Bradford fire should be commemorated, but there's a difference there.

Also, it nearly was Spurs in 1981. I bet he'd have a different viewpoint then.

Having said that, the press wouldn't have turned on Londoners* the way we were persecuted.

Can we leave Heysel out of this thread please? A London based press won't turn on their own.


*no offence to Cockneys btw.

 

[Jxg]

Can you point to the articles where Bradford fans were accused of pissing on and robbing their own dead fans please?

I agree the Bradford fire should be commemorated, but there's a difference there.

They were wrong. They corrected their statement. We need to move on. We can't live in the past, however much people may want to.

However, we should remember all those who suffered in any disaster, but not prioritise one over another (Hillsborough over Bradford, Heysel, etc.) A loss of life is a loss of life regardless of how it happens and each situation should be treated equally.