13 points out of 10 games

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So dave, how long/ should we keep looking to cup runs and top half finish for the next 2, 5 10 years? You know as well as I, not to hold your breath on a takeover.
...as many times is as necessary to win a cup.

What's the big alternative that's more preferable? 7th place trophy and a pt on the head from Gary Neville?

No ta.
 
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I wish some people on here would stop treating us the same. The expectation level across the forum has certainly declined.
Nothing to do with expectation levels, the forum is full of fans who have backed Martinez so hard they would rather he stay and they continue to make excuses for him, therefore in their mind that makes them right, as appose admit that Martinez ain't up to it and therefore they would appear to be wrong.
 

It's an awful record, I agree.

If it doesn't change soon it'll become more and more difficult to dismiss it as a symptom of a one-off bad season.
Some will. TBF it's been a tough set of home fixtures this season which has not aided those stats. A good run of form and performances is needed
 
Last season our win ratio in the PL was 31%, so far this season it is 30%. For me it seems that the hype surrounding RM is optimistic. The stats being revealed are not good. To be honest he is just really another average football manager who talks the talk but does he do the?
 

After our tough opening run of fixtures we have 10 points from 18 against Sunderland, West Ham, Villa, Bournemouth, Palace, and Norwich.

It's not the fixture list. We're just a midtable team.
 
After our tough opening run of fixtures we have 10 points from 18 against Sunderland, West Ham, Villa, Bournemouth, Palace, and Norwich.

It's not the fixture list. We're just a midtable team.
If we had Alex Ferguson in charge with these players then we'd make the top 4 with ease. There are clear weaknesses in the side that aren't being addressed and it seems to be a coaching issue more than anything. If we scored as many goals from set pieces as we conceded from set pieces then we'd be unstoppable.
 

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