This post is laughable. If you want to find any excuse for mediocrity go ahead, this site is full of them. You seem intent on warping every argument far beyond what it was originally about in the process attributing views to me that I've never held to make my opinion appear ridiculous.
Seeing as you either struggle to read or deliberately misrepresent arguments, here it is again, one poster said that this group of players should not have any pressure put on them whatsoever as they are not able to perform under it. I countered that by saying that why should this be the case? You then completely derailed the whole argument with a bizarre work based analogy then that embarassing last post which is both erroneous, includes disrespect for other leagues and competitions (yeah the copa libertadores is 'nothing'), and actually does not even counter the point I was making. Where did I say that the young players were surrounded by winners? I didn't, you'd have just liked me to say it to fit your bizarre extrapolated argument.
I ask you then, returning to the original argument that you sabotaged like a clumsy elephant, do you think that it is acceptable that Everton football club has a squad of players that are apparently incapable of performing under any pressure whatsoever? (An answer without changing the subject or your usual brain bending word jumble would be appreciated).
I think you are far too rigid in here mate. Blinkered. Whether it's the view you hold or the debate at hand.
Let's rewind...
If players can't perform under pressure they shouldn't be at Everton.
This is the part which I disagreed with. I then used the example of someone who works in an office.
You obviously accepted it as a response but disagreed with it. Fair play:
Last time I checked we were one of the biggest sides in English football not a nursery or an academy for the elite. If Martinez's strategy involves getting young world class players in then that is fine but that is a choice he has made. If he's done it as the best way to return us to success that is great but quite why fans have taken that to mean we now have a ready made excuse as to why we can no longer compete for anything I don't know. Rom Barkley Stones McCarthy are all internationals who have been in the first team for 3 seasons and in the prem longer (Stones excepted). Apart from Del (who is a bit raw) Where exactly is the need for all these kids gloves? Howard Baines Jags Coleman Barry Kone? This might have washed in 13/14 but this is not a team of teenagers. It is a squad of elite players who have been together for 2 and a half years with most of them being vastly experienced. Again, if they can't deal with pressure, why are we paying to have them here?
Using your own logic, do you therefore put our underperformance over the last 18 months solely on these young developing players? What about the other 7 in the first 11? Do they just get excused from all games with any pressure as well?
The bit in bold is the key here. To me it says 'we are a big club, we expect big performances, title wins, cup wins etc". Is that not fair? To do those things, specifically win the big prize - titles, but also the next step down, to challenge for the top 4, you need consistency, power players in the dressing room who HAVE wons things and can teach these fledglings on the job how/what to do through a long hard season.
My response simply is, we may be a traditionally big club, however very few of our players have won major honours. My point regarding the Funes Mori is justified as the european leagues are the biggest and best in the world. That surely isnt up for debate is it?
So my final post to you was a whistle-stop tour of players as I tried to recollect who in our team should be guiding these players to consistency, to the top 4. We have about 3 'winners' dont we. Howard with Man Utd, Barry with City and Gibson with Man Utd. It isnt enough. Instead we have to hope these quality young players figure it out for themselves. This isnt ideal, granted, but you play the cards you're dealt with. The winners of this world cost £20mil plus if you want them at an age where they can also make a difference on the pitch themselves.
So to answer your question I think it is completely understandable that we have a squad of players who struggle for consistency and subsequently struggle to challenge for top honours and league places when its made up of kids with quality and players who have never shown any consistency in their careers thus far including winning honours.
