‘Taking the knee’ again…..

[Bedfordblue]

I see establishment sciolist Dickie Masters is on about footballers ‘taking the knee’ again in the name of BHM / No Room for Racism.

Premier League players to take knee for first time this season as they discuss whether gesture is still effective

Richard Masters, the boss of the Premier League, speaks to Sky News after we revealed there has been a surge in abuse targeting footballers online this season.

news.sky.com

Is this a useful tool, a noble stance, a middle aged white blokes misguided fumble or just plain old virtue signalling?
Are footballers even on the same page as the general public on this matter?

Racism of course has no place in society let alone at football matches, but this gesture feels a bit off the mark to me.
When social media companies pretty much empower people via anonymity, I’m unconvinced football is the place to lead by example on these matters, at least not in this way.
The EPL and FA for me, show their true colours when there’s an actual case to answer, they simply put their heads in the sand and hope it goes away.
Don’t know what the answer is or what would be a more effective campaign. Maybe allow special ‘one off’ away kits in Oct to raise awareness with revenue / profit going to appropriate charities in support of aligned causes

 

[Runub]

I see establishment sciolist Dickie Masters is on about footballers ‘taking the knee’ again in the name of BHM / No Room for Racism.

Premier League players to take knee for first time this season as they discuss whether gesture is still effective

Richard Masters, the boss of the Premier League, speaks to Sky News after we revealed there has been a surge in abuse targeting footballers online this season.

news.sky.com

Is this a useful tool, a noble stance, a middle aged white blokes misguided fumble or just plain old virtue signalling?
Are footballers even on the same page as the general public on this matter?

Racism of course has no place in society let alone at football matches, but this gesture feels a bit off the mark to me.
When social media companies pretty much empower people via anonymity, I’m unconvinced football is the place to lead by example on these matters, at least not in this way.
The EPL and FA for me, show their true colours when there’s an actual case to answer, they simply put their heads in the sand and hope it goes away.
Don’t know what the answer is or what would be a more effective campaign. Maybe allow special ‘one off’ away kits in Oct to raise awareness with revenue / profit going to appropriate charities in support of aligned causes

Not sure it makes any difference apart from highlighting the issue. You often hear calls to educate racists. I can’t see how that would make a significant impact either as in my view a racist will not change. I believe we are stuck with it unfortunately

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

 

[Cake]

Are other malor leagues in other countries also doing this?
Is this the PL thinking (still) it's something it isn't?
Would it have more (any) impact if fans in the stadiums joined in, or would this be regarded as a H&S issue?

 

[Rob17896]

I see establishment sciolist Dickie Masters is on about footballers ‘taking the knee’ again in the name of BHM / No Room for Racism.

Premier League players to take knee for first time this season as they discuss whether gesture is still effective

Richard Masters, the boss of the Premier League, speaks to Sky News after we revealed there has been a surge in abuse targeting footballers online this season.

news.sky.com

Is this a useful tool, a noble stance, a middle aged white blokes misguided fumble or just plain old virtue signalling?
Are footballers even on the same page as the general public on this matter?

Racism of course has no place in society let alone at football matches, but this gesture feels a bit off the mark to me.
When social media companies pretty much empower people via anonymity, I’m unconvinced football is the place to lead by example on these matters, at least not in this way.
The EPL and FA for me, show their true colours when there’s an actual case to answer, they simply put their heads in the sand and hope it goes away.
Don’t know what the answer is or what would be a more effective campaign. Maybe allow special ‘one off’ away kits in Oct to raise awareness with revenue / profit going to appropriate charities in support of aligned causes

It has lost the power it had...after about three matches. I struggle now with groups being identified in this way. Human rights matter and if you are trans, black, gay, hetro, etc. You are a person who deserves respect. One group deserves no more than another and this is what alienates a lot of people. Race and Gender quickly become industries of the offended. All lives matter and we all have individual and collective needs regardless of race or sexuality.

 

[Swartzy]

As bad as this may sound, I think the kneeling before games has ran its course.
It just became part of the game.

Different avenues need to be looked at, start at the main source, Social Media..

 

[Benicetoourboys]

Personally, I think it was a good thing & would like it brought back.

 

[Librarian]

Maybe they should stand on one leg?

 

[chrismpw]

Crap virtue signalling from millionaires. Just run on the pitch and kick off. Get rid if all the pointless ceremonies and gestures - its just a game some people are lucky to be paid for.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Crap virtue signalling from millionaires. Just run on the pitch and kick off. Get rid if all the pointless ceremonies and gestures - its just a game some people are lucky to be paid for.

And get racially abused for doing it. But they get paid millions so just deal with it?

 

[chrismpw]

And get racially abused for doing it. But they get paid millions so just deal with it?

Absolutely not - kick those morons permenantly out of the stadium. Sanctions against the guilty will always be better than removing free will, forcing employees into virtue signalling and delaying what thousands of innocent blameless people have turned up to watch.

 

[Benicetoourboys]

Are other malor leagues in other countries also doing this?
Is this the PL thinking (still) it's something it isn't?
Would it have more (any) impact if fans in the stadiums joined in, or would this be regarded as a H&S issue?

Impossible for fans to kneel down in the stadium unless you're about 6 years old.

 

[Rita_Poon]

 

[Cake]

Impossible for fans to kneel down in the stadium unless you're about 6 years old.

They'd soon hit the deck if they dropped a tenner (or their drink)

 

[Rob17896]

Personally, I think it was a good thing & would like it brought back.

We need to stop identiifying people by race or gender. As soon as people are people and seen that way, discrimination ends.