2025/26 David Moyes

[JobForTheMoyes]

The more progressive managers at Bournemouth & Brighton are using 5 subs every game as we found to our cost against Bournemouth last year & Wolves being inches away from salvaging a draw yesterday. Moyes has a good enough bench now & needs to start using it.

What’s “progressive” about chucking on five subs? It’s abuse of a ridiculous rule and shows you probably can’t pick a good first 11.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Your main gripe? That means you must have others? What are they? Are there so many you are disappointed with him overall?

No I’d say that I have an overall positive stance on Moyes

It’s probably the most I’ve liked an Everton manager since Carlo

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

The more progressive managers at Bournemouth & Brighton are using 5 subs every game as we found to our cost against Bournemouth last year & Wolves being inches away from salvaging a draw yesterday. Moyes has a good enough bench now & needs to start using it.

I definitely agree that we need to make more of the 5 sub rule

Even if just to get younger players some more minutes

 

[Kev The Rat]

Any chance he stays beyond the end of next season ?

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Not sure tbh, don’t know how ambitious the new owners are or who would have come, but I’d have Irola, Frank or Emery over Moyes.

None of whom would have come.

 

[Bedfordblue]

None of whom would have come.

If only I’d said I don’t know who would have come if asked

 

[jamieni]

Any chance he stays beyond the end of next season ?

Always a chance if it goes well.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

If only I’d said I don’t know who would have come if asked

Well aware that you did. Just confirming that (IMO, obviously) none of them would have.

Small chance we could maybe get Iraola NOW, if the job was open, but absolutely no chance in Jan.

EDIT: Actually, almost certainly still no chance of Iraola. Not because he would rather stay at Bournemouth, but because he’ll have his eye on a CL club for next move

 

[Timbucktoo]

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Remember thinking we had a manager that would lead us to the promised land before after one good season but the wheels came off just as quickly.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

What’s “progressive” about chucking on five subs? It’s abuse of a ridiculous rule and shows you probably can’t pick a good first 11.

Odd comment .
It’s most definitely a squad game now , and utilising the subs bench to the full is the skill of management.
We saw ourselves saw a glaring example of how it can be utilised when a manager used his subs to recover from 2-0 down while our then manager did nothing.
C’mon, ‘abuse ‘ of a rule ? Really ?
It’s there to be managed to your advantage, ignoring it is negligent.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Odd comment .
It’s most definitely a squad game now , and utilising the subs bench to the full is the skill of management.
We saw ourselves saw a glaring example of how it can be utilised when a manager used his subs to recover from 2-0 down while our then manager did nothing.
C’mon, ‘abuse ‘ of a rule ? Really ?
It’s there to be managed to your advantage, ignoring it is negligent.

Just because it is the rule now it doesn’t make it correct. They should go back to three subs max with an emergency concussion sub. They only brought in five subs during Covid and we are no longer in a pandemic.

They have ruined the balance of the sport by allowing a basketball esque dynamic.

And if anyone is found to be abusing the concussion rule there should be points deductions.

Hell, I’d argue you could go back to two substitutions with one concussion sub.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Not sure tbh, don’t know how ambitious the new owners are or who would have come, but I’d have Irola, Frank or Emery over Moyes.

Frank’s best Premier League finish is 9th and Iraola’s is 12th. Why would they be better appointments? Emery of course has done well, but why would he leave Villa?

 

[thebluenosebolt]

Odd comment .
It’s most definitely a squad game now , and utilising the subs bench to the full is the skill of management.
We saw ourselves saw a glaring example of how it can be utilised when a manager used his subs to recover from 2-0 down while our then manager did nothing.
C’mon, ‘abuse ‘ of a rule ? Really ?
It’s there to be managed to your advantage, ignoring it is negligent.

We haven't had the players to fill a bench in years. It's a rule that only helped those with a big enough squads. Luckily we're seemingly able to finally have a few to come on. We won the game yesterday.... Try to enjoy it, plenty of time to moan when we loose again.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Well aware that you did. Just confirming that (IMO, obviously) none of them would have.

Small chance we could maybe get Iraola NOW, if the job was open, but absolutely no chance in Jan.

EDIT: Actually, almost certainly still no chance of Iraola. Not because he would rather stay at Bournemouth, but because he’ll have his eye on a CL club for next move

People bum up Iraola, but at the same age Moyes had already finished fourth in the Premier League.