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Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread


The lack of a right back signing has to be deliberate although it doesn’t appear logical.
I can only assume Moyes is happy with Coleman and O’Brien with Garner providing additional cover.

We’ve missed out on a few potential targets, even today Nottingham Forest have agreed a deal with Juventus for RB Nicolo Savona.
They are paying €15m for the 22 year old.

I think we may have had targets for a RB and we just weren't able to pull it off. Now they're going to wait until next year, unless players start moving around on Monday and an opportunity arises for us. Although not the complete make over we wanted, might be better to wait until we can land a first choice player.
 
Saw enough from.Moyes version one to realise he will not play younger players if he has options or they are that good he can't avoid doing so. Usually he has circumstances force his hand.

But can look back at his trusting in youth.

Coleman, farmed out till about 22-23 on loans before eventually bring him enough minutes on the wing.
Baines sat on the bench for over a year behind a centre back converted to makeshift left back in lescott.- until Lescott has the worst game of his career v Dahlmat.
Barley - loaned out several times including the developmental loan to Sheffield united under Warnock who played him as a singer and a sub...
Rooney - the best generational talent of the last 40 years, built like a brick shihouse, who Moyes treated like he was just a young kid managing his minutes. When he was clearly ready to play every week - as he did right after moving from us.

Probs lots of others but those four stand out.
Rooney final season with us before man united, he played 40 times for us (every game he was available for).

Started 31 of them. And played 2960 mins (an average of 74 mins a game).

He only played 3 more games for man united the next season despite having champions league as well and averaged 78mins per game played for them.

So not sure your info is quite right.
 
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Saw enough from.Moyes version one to realise he will not play younger players if he has options or they are that good he can't avoid doing so. Usually he has circumstances force his hand.

But can look back at his trusting in youth.

Coleman, farmed out till about 22-23 on loans before eventually bring him enough minutes on the wing.
Baines sat on the bench for over a year behind a centre back converted to makeshift left back in lescott.- until Lescott has the worst game of his career v Dahlmat.
Barley - loaned out several times including the developmental loan to Sheffield united under Warnock who played him as a singer and a sub...
Rooney - the best generational talent of the last 40 years, built like a brick shihouse, who Moyes treated like he was just a young kid managing his minutes. When he was clearly ready to play every week - as he did right after moving from us.

Probs lots of others but those four stand out.
......and Moyes was bang-on correct in every instance. The world's best ever player wasn't necessarily ready for regular top flight selection in his youth, obviously. I don't see what's hard to understand about that. (Rooney being built like Godzilka doesn't mean his decision-making and positional sense didn't make him a net negative selection for a few months, for instance).
 

Yeah because Soucek reinforces all the negative feelings about Moyes that people have.
Because it proves them spot on and it's exactly the type of deals we made under moshiri which f'd us over.
Except this time we’ve also brought in Dibling, Grealish and KDH. Would’ve been impossible under the old regime. Soucek proves nobody spot in, unless they are the sort to disregard all evidence contrary to their view and then still claim to be right.

Soucek would be part of a mix. On higher wages, probably, but one purchase like that does NOT signal a return to the Moshiri era mindset. Honestly I think some of us have been permanently scarred by the last few years. Unable to see that we are in a different place right now.

I’m not saying I’d be all over him, but the attitude displayed by some at the prospect of his arrival is more akin to PTSD than it is common sense.
 
Devils advocate here…


Baines and Coleman went on to have very long careers at the top level both remaining with us for the duration and both his good fitness records until Coleman suffered a horror leg break with Ireland

Rooney went on to be England and Manchester United’s record goalscorer having a top career by anyone’s level and rarely missing a game even though he didn’t look after himdelf

Barkley got played every second he was available after Moyes left and he’s had loads of injuries and had a really disappointing career for the talent he was blessed with


…maybe Moyes knows what he’s doing not overplaying kids?
Spot on.

At least with us he gave some young and also non-PL players very good careers.

Are we trying to be West Ham fans now and finding imaginary stocks to beat him with ?
 


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