Transfer Rumour Douglas Luiz

[DanB90]

And what him out?

 

[Tommy.]

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[Eggsyblueskin]

Forest have spent the majority of the century outside the top flight just to remind you of the difference

And yet still been Champions of Europe twice .

 

[blulouie]

Seeing as Marinakis kicked off over Spurs backdooring Gibbs White's transfer. Now he's back in the fold with Forest.
It would be just pure theatre if he's tapped up Douglas Luiz and Juventus have seen their ass.

 

[Zatara]

His agent is no different to the rest of them. Disgusting how they take money out of clubs pockets to line their own. It’s money lost from the game.

Nonsense. Without agents who would be on the players' side?

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

His agent is no different to the rest of them. Disgusting how they take money out of clubs pockets to line their own. It’s money lost from the game.

Do you think if they didn't exist the money would be used for something better?

 

[PhilM]

Nonsense. Without agents who would be on the players' side?

A lawyer / legal team? I've no issue with representation, in fact I know they need it, but the genuine concern is that it's swayed too far to the agents.

Rather than supporting players, you could argue that agents manipulate moves and contract renewals for their own benefit, rather than the players.

 

[Harryflashman]

A lawyer / legal team? I've no issue with representation, in fact I know they need it, but the genuine concern is that it's swayed too far to the agents.

Rather than supporting players, you could argue that agents manipulate moves and contract renewals for their own benefit, rather than the players.

You could certainly think that , you could definitely argue that but do you have any evidence to support that ?

Just like in life generally we seem to
Prefer to have scapegoats and I think in football and transfers specifically they’re the bad guys . Easier to blame to faceless shyster than a player we like or even love.

I was dismissive of agents the other day in a post but I just think they’re the easy villains of the piece particularly as most of us couldn’t pick one of them out of a lineup .

 

[b-rad]

Are you being sarcastic?

??

A year ago they finished 17th.
The season just gone they finished 7th.

Do you think they were a more attractive team to join one year ago or now?

 

[b-rad]

they aren’t mate like i’ve said
we will hopefully be consistent
to be a good prospect again

forest will not have the same season

future wise ours will be better

My point is that they are far more attractive now than they were a year ago.

So…while we may be in a better position than we were a year ago, Forest can definitely say that about themselves too.

That’s in response to you saying we wouldn’t have a sniff a year ago. Forest are were worse than us last year, so they wouldn’t have a sniff either. Now both of us might.

 

[PhilM]

You could certainly think that , you could definitely argue that but do you have any evidence to support that ?

Just like in life generally we seem to
Prefer to have scapegoats and I think in football and transfers specifically they’re the bad guys . Easier to blame to faceless shyster than a player we like or even love.

I was dismissive of agents the other day in a post but I just think they’re the easy villains of the piece particularly as most of us couldn’t pick one of them out of a lineup .

A good point, and yes it would be difficult to define conclusive evidence without disclosure from players and agents themselves.

I would point to the astronomical £409.1 million spent by PL clubs on agents and intermediaries in a twelve-month period from 2024-2025.

The year after, it was meant to be £409.5m. Sources: BBC Sport and again, which come from FA accounts.

Now, the reporting periods of transfers and agent fees don't match up, nor am I inclined at the moment to delve into enough detail to marry them up.

But, with transfer spending potentially reaching above £2bn in this window, plus winter, you could go for a ballpark figure of £2.5 billion total.

£400m would be 16% of that, which is a pretty hefty fee, and one you could argue is not inline with their role of representation and player interests.

Especially as they receive a % of the players wages!

 

[Harryflashman]

A good point, and yes it would be difficult to define conclusive evidence without disclosure from players and agents themselves.

I would point to the astronomical £409.1 million spent by PL clubs on agents and intermediaries in a twelve-month period from 2024-2025.

The year after, it was meant to be £409.5m. Sources: BBC Sport and again, which come from FA accounts.

Now, the reporting periods of transfers and agent fees don't match up, nor am I inclined at the moment to delve into enough detail to marry them up.

But, with transfer spending potentially reaching above £2bn in this window, plus winter, you could go for a ballpark figure of £2.5 billion total.

£400m would be 16% of that, which is a pretty hefty fee, and one you could argue is not inline with their role of representation and player interests.

Especially as they receive a % of the players wages!

So your argument is they make money and their money has gone up . Does the sport pay too much money to agents ? It’d be difficult to disagree however that doesn’t really support them being bad actors just that they’re excelling in negotiations , which I suppose is their job.

Agents have been about for decades you’d think if they were footballs dr evil That their would be an array of evidence supporting that argument. I’m not suggesting that there aren’t agents who prioritise themselves, im Sure there are but the evidence that they are manipulating players on a large scale basis seems thin on the ground .

 

[Kirkles]

Here we go..

 

[Harryflashman]

Here we go..

Farbrizio is that you ?

 

[Swagger]

A lawyer / legal team? I've no issue with representation, in fact I know they need it, but the genuine concern is that it's swayed too far to the agents.

Rather than supporting players, you could argue that agents manipulate moves and contract renewals for their own benefit, rather than the players.

Fully agree. A solicitor could advise footballers on contracts and surely anyone with a brain could decide which clubs are of interest to them.

NFL Quarterback Lamar Jackson negotiated a huge contract with the Baltimore Ravens with only an advisor. He didn't need an agent. It's not a pre requisite.

If I was a professional footballer I would only instruct a solicitor to assist me with contracts. No need for an agent to rinse out a large commission when they most likely have a hidden agenda with any supposed advice.