Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread


Mad isn't it?

Gana constantly runs out of position leaves gaps everywhere in our midfield that the opposition exploit. Leaving garner to try to cover two positions while our midfield is over run.

But garner is crap and gana is gods gift apparently. I mean if you watch toffeetv youd think gana is literally the best cm in the league the way they tongue his hoop.

Personally I dont think that either of them are good enough for where we want to be but the way people talk about garner youd think he couldn't tie his own shoe laces and scores an own goal every game.

Gana was (and is) much better than Garner. If Gana was such a liability to the team, then why did his team mates vote him as players player of the year?

Or do the actual players not have your insight.
 

Mad isn't it?

Gana constantly runs out of position leaves gaps everywhere in our midfield that the opposition exploit. Leaving garner to try to cover two positions while our midfield is over run.

But garner is crap and gana is gods gift apparently. I mean if you watch toffeetv youd think gana is literally the best cm in the league the way they tongue his hoop.

Personally I dont think that either of them are good enough for where we want to be but the way people talk about garner youd think he couldn't tie his own shoe laces and scores an own goal every game.

They’d both be better in a 3 but if we’re going to persist with playing a number 10 off the main striker then the deep lying two have to be better than Gana and Garner.
 
Mad isn't it?

Gana constantly runs out of position leaves gaps everywhere in our midfield that the opposition exploit. Leaving garner to try to cover two positions while our midfield is over run.

But garner is crap and gana is gods gift apparently. I mean if you watch toffeetv youd think gana is literally the best cm in the league the way they tongue his hoop.

Personally I dont think that either of them are good enough for where we want to be but the way people talk about garner youd think he couldn't tie his own shoe laces and scores an own goal every game.

Next year is going to be a massive test, for all the criticism he took on here, the last period of time Doucoure wasn’t in the team dropping back to make a midfield 3, our midfield 2 got Mullard.
 
Gana was (and is) much better than Garner. If Gana was such a liability to the team, then why did his team mates vote him as players player of the year?

Or do the actual players not have your insight.
One of the best tacklers in Europe too. His stats are pretty good in this area year after year. I read somewhere that he had 100+ tackles 7 years in a row in Europe, a feat not many have achieved. In my opinion he is underrated not overrated. People want him to be something he isn’t, but what he is very good at is breaking up opposition play and tackling. Vital to the team.
 
He was the creative player in a 3 at Forest, ever since he has been here he has been shoved in a 2 and made too play as a defensive midfielder which isn't his game imo.
I like Garner but that was the championship and there is definitely a big difference. He tends to to drift out of games too much for me but then again how many of our players do that.
 

Next year is going to be a massive test, for all the criticism he took on here, the last period of time Doucoure wasn’t in the team dropping back to make a midfield 3, our midfield 2 got Mullard.

Garner cannot do that mopping up for sure. Do you personally see a Prem seasoned player (whoever that might be) slotting in there and then a championship talented youngster as bzck up, potentially loaning Tim and Harrison out in the process as a potential solution?
 
One of the best tacklers in Europe too. His stats are pretty good in this area year after year. I read somewhere that he had 100+ tackles 7 years in a row in Europe, a feat not many have achieved. In my opinion he is underrated not overrated. People want him to be something he isn’t, but what he is very good at is breaking up opposition play and tackling. Vital to the team.
The thing is that it doesn't matter who you pair him with, in the formation we play our midfield won't be competitive with him. You could play him with Rodri or Bruno Fernandes, our midfield wouldn't be top 10 in the league.

It was crazy against Blackburn when Garner pressed from top on the edge of their box and saw Gana next to him when he looked over his shoulder. We had no players between them and our central defenders, while Blackburn had their entire midfield there. A better team would have punished us. Every time.

I wish Gana were more disciplined. When he see a lose ball or a 50/50 he has full tunnel vision and no concerns about the space he leaves behind. He needs a babysitter.

Yes, he does a lot of good things, but as a team we would have benefitted from a Gareth Barry type in front of the defense that had positioning as his main strength. Instead of Gana. Not with him.

As of now, he'll continue to be paired with a player that does a little bit of everything. Nothing wrong with that, but those will never shine playing with Gana. I do think that if we signed Douglas Luiz, that him and Garner together would do a lot better than him and Gana.

Gana shines in matches were we have 40% possession. He is also the main reason why we have 40% possession.

As of now Leeds are favorites to win over us the opening match. I'd love to see an offensive Everton team going to Elland Road to dominate the match and silence the home crowd. I expect to see a team that sit back and have 35% possession. No ambition, but with a hope to steal a point. That's where we're at and that won't change with Gana in the starting 11.
 
Not a great source and may be a rehash of other articles but is dated less than 2 days ago and suggests we want him.

To contrast the article there is mention on Leicester based sites that there is chance he will still be available for less than his release clause next month too, as the pressure increases on Leicester to sell. Seems a cert for Utd though imo.

 
Tofeenut where are you…we need you..help us!!!!
 

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Mad isn't it?

Gana constantly runs out of position leaves gaps everywhere in our midfield that the opposition exploit. Leaving garner to try to cover two positions while our midfield is over run.

But garner is crap and gana is gods gift apparently. I mean if you watch toffeetv youd think gana is literally the best cm in the league the way they tongue his hoop.

Personally I dont think that either of them are good enough for where we want to be but the way people talk about garner youd think he couldn't tie his own shoe laces and scores an own goal every game.
Gana has been like that most of his career. However, he was much more disciplined, positionally, last season.

Perhaps Garner isn’t a box to box midfielder and that’s why you get many vanilla performances from him there. But he’s not an advanced midfielder in the prem, he is not aggressive enough.

He’s 24 now, big season for him to show more than we’ve seen.
 

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