Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[FinchFarmBlue]

Anyone reading literally anything into weird multi-club shenanigans at first glance needs to go to bed.

There will probably be loads of odd deals and such in the future that won't make sense until maybe even a year after. I am unbelievably not arsed which financial levers they pull to make both clubs better off. We wanted owners who know how to play the game - this is game playing.

I'm not saying they're good at it, god knows, but this is what game playing looks like so we may as well get used to it and not throw a fit any time something doesn't make sense.

With rhe legitimate concern from fans, if this sort of deal was a goer, would surely need the CEO for example to explain the strategy, once cleared to do so. As others have said there needs to be a balance to not affect our wider transfer strategy and any promises made to Moyes regarding funds availability.

 

[blue to the bone]

Id be very surprised if we don't see deals like this happen between the 2 clubs goin forward.
Psr shenanigans to benefit both.

 

[mikel_88]

Can't see @davek taking this at all well !

Think would be the reaction from most of the fans tbh, even if is a way to cheat the psr for it.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

But we lose £30 million of our summer budget which is tight and needs to be spread on about 8 players.

Would be crazy.

As far as I understand our only constraints from a cash flow perspective is how much money the new owners are willing to invest I.e. the owners can spend as much cash as they want. But balancing the books from a PSR perspective is a different matter.

 

[caliblue]

Right, what's this Welsley stuff guys? I've logged back on and am very confused by the discussions! Are they saying that he would be our player that we lend to them for a year, or that we are buying him for Roma?!

It's a player that Gasperini, now head coach at Roma, wanted to sign when he was at Atalanta.

Roma and a lot of other clubs seems interested now. And with so much interest, it will be difficult for them to do "loan with mandatory purchase next summer" Italian clubs seems to love.

If Roma can't buy him now, Everton can buy him, loan him to Roma and sell him next summer. As a workaround.

This is a player Roma wants. Not a player that we are signing and get Roma to develop for us.

 

[buskwhi2]

With rhe legitimate concern from fans, if this sort of deal was a goer, would surely need the CEO for example to explain the strategy, once cleared to do so. As others have said there needs to be a balance to not affect our wider transfer strategy and any promises made to Moyes regarding funds availability.

I’m sure Moyes would make it clear if Everton were being hamstrung by these sort of deals. I’m not convinced the club need to explain the financial jiggery pokery that might go on

 

[MACCA75]

Who says it’s tight?

Our accounts aren’t going to transform overnight - unless a very big PSR manoeuvre is on the way.

 

[FinchFarmBlue]

Loan Roma that awful tunnel.

It would blow away before they got it out of H.D.

 

[Aries]

I’m with Wayne here.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

It's a player that Gasperini, now head coach at Roma, wanted to sign when he was at Atalanta.

Roma and a lot of other clubs seems interested now. And with so much interest, it will be difficult for them to do "loan with mandatory purchase next summer" Italian clubs seems to love.

If Roma can't buy him now, Everton can buy him, loan him to Roma and sell him next summer. As a workaround.

This is a player Roma wants. Not a player that we are signing and get Roma to develop for us.

Seems a bit stupid when we (a) need a RB and (b) do not have much money with which to purchase half a squad.

Obviously, it's likely nonsense, but it really doesn't make sense.

 

[DanB90]

Since when has the Italian press been reliable?

 

[FinchFarmBlue]

I’m sure Moyes would make it clear if Everton were being hamstrung by these sort of deals. I’m not convinced the club need to explain the financial jiggery pokery that might go on

Not in so much detail, moreover Wesley wirh Roma for a year etc before plans to bring him over here for example or a.n orher reason , not the financial themselves.

 

[DuncansPigeons]

As far as I understand our only constraints from a cash flow perspective is how much money the new owners are willing to invest I.e. the owners can spend as much cash as they want. But balancing the books from a PSR perspective is a different matter.

As I said above to not hurt us, any deal like this with a loan would have to match up the amortisation figure from the fee with a “loan fee” plus wages.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Our accounts aren’t going to transform overnight - unless a very big PSR manoeuvre is on the way.

Our accounts very literally have changed overnight (from a PSR point of view)

 

[BlueStevie35]

Since when has the Italian press been reliable?

Rarely, taking a massive pinch of the finest Italian salt with this, unless Bobble, Joyce or Paddy confirm it