2024/25 Seamus Coleman

[NathDogg]

It’s not right, it’s a major part of what’s wrong with Everton being too nice. Hes past it and can’t stay fit. Again I’m a massive Coleman fan one of my favourites but there becomes a time for everyone to move on and his was this season if not a few years ago.

100% wrong mate.

I trust the manager and TFG.

The problem with previous Everton was buying a load of crap players on overinflated contracts, that didn’t match their ability, and also hiring atrocious football managers and backroom staff like Koeman, Walsh, allardyce and tapastits, and paying them far too much money also.

 

[BainesontoastNEW]

 

[pfim]

It’s not right, it’s a major part of what’s wrong with Everton being too nice. Hes past it and can’t stay fit. Again I’m a massive Coleman fan one of my favourites but there becomes a time for everyone to move on and his was this season if not a few years ago.

What does being "nice" have to do with it? The manager made very clear his expectations. Moyes' benevolence was not one of the factors.

 

[mightymoyes]

People often quote the sixty grand thing without considering the tens of millions in signing on fees, wages and bonuses he has accrued in his time here. He was an excellent player, and I'm sure a top bloke, but he hasn't been value for money for many years as a player, which is why a playing contract defies reason and why so many posters have suggested a coaching contract would be a more reasonable solution.

Spotrac have his career earnings as just under 30m dollars (probably not 100% accurate but not far off), you can't argue with a straight face that he still hasn't been excellent value in comparison to nearly every other player that has been at the club during his time.

 

[Neiler]

Where would he sit in the list of our greatest ever right backs?

The main contenders would probably be Stevens, maybe Tommy Wright, perhaps even Snods for a year or two? Would you throw Hibbo in there for longevity.

Thinking about it Hibbo and Seamus pretty much have been the main right backs for the last 25 years, bar the last couple of seasons - when you think about we have never really spent much on the position - Patterson is prob our record signing right back.

 

[Eggs]

Where would he sit in the list of our greatest ever right backs?

The main contenders would probably be Stevens, maybe Tommy Wright, perhaps even Snods for a year or two? Would you throw Hibbo in there for longevity.

Thinking about it Hibbo and Seamus pretty much have been the main right backs for the last 25 years, bar the last couple of seasons - when you think about we have never really spent much on the position - Patterson is prob our record signing right back.

….was thinking about this the other day (best Everton RB I’ve seen) and I went with Tommy Wright, mainly because Gary Stevens was prone to costly error. No idea how Hibbert played so many top flight games, but good luck to him for doing so. Snodin looked top drawer until his hamstrings popped, Keith Newton decent on either side.

Coleman wouldn’t be as good as Wright and Stevens but he’s certainly one of our best. A terrific player for us and sensible to keep him involved during this period of significant transition.

 

[mahermi1]

….was thinking about this the other day (best Everton RB I’ve seen) and I went with Tommy Wright, mainly because Gary Stevens was prone to costly error. No idea how Hibbert played so many top flight games, but good luck to him for doing so.

Coleman wouldn’t be as good as Wright and Stevens but he’s certainly one of our best. A terrific player for us and sensible to keep him involved during this period of significant transition.

John Gidman was a fine right back for us, but does not pass the longevity test.

 

[Zatara]

Let me ask a question of some of the more miserable posters on here.
Do you think that TFG are billionaire business people , or are they soppy sentimentalists like BK ?
I would suggest that it is more likely that they are hard nosed analytical types.
They have a newly appointed backroom team that are presumably doing things in an efficient , business like manner.
The decision to extend Seamus's contact obviously makes business sense to them.
Some lads need to get a grip , and give their heads a wobble.

Do you really believe TFG are the ones agreeing the contracts?

Surely you cant believe this!

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Let me ask a question of some of the more miserable posters on here.
Do you think that TFG are billionaire business people , or are they soppy sentimentalists like BK ?
I would suggest that it is more likely that they are hard nosed analytical types.
They have a newly appointed backroom team that are presumably doing things in an efficient , business like manner.
The decision to extend Seamus's contact obviously makes business sense to them.
Some lads need to get a grip , and give their heads a wobble.

Jim Ratcliffe is a billionaire businessman too, mate. By that logic I assume every decision he’s made at United has been sound?

If they had used their hard-nosed analytical skills they’d have seen that last season he:

Played in the third game and was immediately injured until Chrimbo

Played twice in a row for a total of 108 mins over Chrimbo and was injured until May

Played twice in a row in May - a 1 min cameo against Fulham and limping off after 18 mins against Southampton.

He has been a wonderful servant to this club and is a highly likeable fella, but giving him a playing contract is stupid. Every argument made FOR keeping him around is based on his presence, influence, etc, all of which can be utilised in a non-playing role.

It’s naive sentimentality regardless of the financial status of our owners.

 

[windymiller]

Spotrac have his career earnings as just under 30m dollars (probably not 100% accurate but not far off), you can't argue with a straight face that he still hasn't been excellent value in comparison to nearly every other player that has been at the club during his time.

Sure, averaged over his career he's been good value. Over the past five years, he has not. Not as a player anyway. He played the last game at Goodison, not on merit, but as a reward for his service. He lasted what, twenty minutes? He's done as a player, his body isn't up to it. It's sad but it happens. Nobody "deserves" a playing contract. Not even Coleman. Make him a coach.

 

[Frosty1878]

What does being "nice" have to do with it? The manager made very clear his expectations. Moyes' benevolence was not one of the factors.

Not being cut throat enough and putting behind the last few years that have been awful, instead give someone who should of been off a few years ago a 1 year extension when In fact he will get very little game time what is the point? His presence he could have had the same effect from a coaching role on a 10th of the wage if he doesn’t want to coach just yet and still play well do it elsewhere.

 

[Frosty1878]

100% wrong mate.

I trust the manager and TFG.

The problem with previous Everton was buying a load of crap players on overinflated contracts, that didn’t match their ability, and also hiring atrocious football managers and backroom staff like Koeman, Walsh, allardyce and tapastits, and paying them far too much money also.

Yes agree and everything is fallen into place and appointments look good, but sorry seamus Coleman still as a player isn’t it.

 

[blue61]

….was thinking about this the other day (best Everton RB I’ve seen) and I went with Tommy Wright, mainly because Gary Stevens was prone to costly error. No idea how Hibbert played so many top flight games, but good luck to him for doing so. Snodin looked top drawer until his hamstrings popped, Keith Newton decent on either side.

Coleman wouldn’t be as good as Wright and Stevens but he’s certainly one of our best. A terrific player for us and sensible to keep him involved during this period of significant transition.

You forgot Mick Bernard. I believe Cafu modelled his game on him.

 

[Eggs]

Yes agree and everything is fallen into place and appointments look good, but sorry seamus Coleman still as a player isn’t it.

…..ideal, he’s in the players domain which fits perfectly with what Moyes wants. I guarantee Moyes will be very happy with this situation especially during this period of significant change. It’ll be a weight off the managers mind.

Can’t understand why posters are in the least concerned about a playing or coaching contract, Coleman is being employed for a very valuable reason so just accept it and judge in 12 months. His role is significant.

 

[pfim]

Not being cut throat enough and putting behind the last few years that have been awful, instead give someone who should of been off a few years ago a 1 year extension when In fact he will get very little game time what is the point? His presence he could have had the same effect from a coaching role on a 10th of the wage if he doesn’t want to coach just yet and still play well do it elsewhere.

Again, this is not about being cut throat or nice. The manager has given him a clear role, he has defined it and stated what it was. That's the point.

I don't know you so I don't know what teams you've had experience with, but there's quite the difference between being a coach and being a peer. From his own view point, to how others see him, to what he is privy to inside the team and what's he's privy to from the staff.